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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2012-06-09, 06:17:02
john.drake.uk@gmail.com from United Kingdom  
Hi there think im being scammed ,
but not falling for it ,

she came on match.com, only wrote to her two letters gave nothing away ,
but she not ask for money yet ,am just testing her to see, me off an experiment ,
any said to her will you hold my picture,in her hand ,and she sent it to me with
my picture with her holding it ???

but the frame looks more white than in the picture,
see if you can make it out ,on you trained eye
thankyou



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2012-06-12, 16:03:06
anonymous from United States  
Once you marry a ukrainian ladies how long does it take her to get a green card?
2012-06-13, 06:05:45
anonymous  
5 years i think
2012-06-13, 18:58:38   (updated: 2012-06-13, 19:06:01)
DOC from United States  
anonymous from United States,

A interview date for permanent residence (''conditional green card'' good for 2 years) will be scheduled 4 to 6 months after filing with CIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services).
2012-06-14, 06:51:50
anonymous from United States  
Margaret Asare is really a girl named megan that lends her pictures to everyone in the world that commits date crime. She has a facebook page under the name of Sydney Perry and the scammer is a Black fe,ale in Nigeria. She has various other names and scammers in Ghana. If you get a date message from Ghana, it is always a scam and the same with Nigeria.
2012-06-14, 06:51:50
anonymous from United States  
Margaret Asare is really a girl named megan that lends her pictures to everyone in the world that commits date crime. She has a facebook page under the name of Sydney Perry and the scammer is a Black fe,ale in Nigeria. She has various other names and scammers in Ghana. If you get a date message from Ghana, it is always a scam and the same with Nigeria.



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2012-06-14, 18:23:19
anonymous  
2012-06-14, 06:51:50 anonymous from United States


Pic belongs to MeganQT ...

Megan getting wet at the beach
Megan QT is Phil Flashs favourite girl. Why? She is cute and innocent looking, but is a naughty girl! You wanna know how naughty? She will tease you until you 'blow your load' all over your computer screen.


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2012-06-25, 21:00:45
anonymous from United States  
Does anyone recognize this as a scam photo from ghana?


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2012-06-26, 06:32:07
anonymous  
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2012-06-26, 06:33:18
anonymous  
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2012-06-28, 11:09:12
jonnycat213@yahoo.com from Ontario, United States  
I am unable to verify if this is a lagit travel company or if
this license is a fake. They have no information on the web and there is a simular company which is not so happy with this activity their name is Star sky travel in Kiev Ukraine. They state that this girl has good chance to get tourist visa but i am not so shure because am unable to verify any of her information or the travel comany info. Not my first rodeo as i have been burned in the past with simular situations. Is there any way to verify if this license is real ?



sky-star-travel@bigmir.net <sky-star-travel@bigmir.net>

Travel Company
'Sky-Star-Travel',
25000
Karla Marksa 5 str,
Kirivograd city
Kirivigrad region
Ukraine.
Tel.: +38 (099) 626 65 14
26, June 2012


Hello Mr John Kostantino!
We attach our licence that you required. We don't have web site now but we are planing to make it in the nearest future. Yes, we can refund you 90% of the price for the tickets if you cancel it 5 days before the flight. And you can buy the tickets if the price will be the same or less, or add some amount if it will be not enough.

Sincerely,

manager Svetlana Kozyra.


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2012-06-29, 18:05:55   (updated: 2012-06-29, 18:13:06)
DOC from United States  
Jonny,

This would be enough for me to say it's a scam.
The REAL company Sky Star travel is aware that their name is being used in scams and has a warning on there web page.
They even mention Kirovograd city the same place ''your'' agency is claiming to be from.

http://www.travelli..ntact.htm

Dear friends. Please be very careful when you got invoice to pay money
for Ukraine companies. In Kirovograd city of Ukraine some women decided to use
name of my company with bad intention to take money and never give
service. Please contact me by skype or e-mail if you have any
doubt. We are absolutely ready to make situation very clear.
2012-07-02, 04:21:14
anonymous from Germany  
here my email from her.
bernd ;-)


hi bernd,
i am vanessa reputana from mintal in davao city.
at moment i am in singapore, but we can meet us in davao too if you like ;-) there i have a house and we have or own room.
for my parents its no problem, they know how i live.
for all ather countrys, you need to buy a ticket and leave it in airport.
please send only sms when you really will meet me.
dont call me the first time, i am much busy..... you understand ;-)
send only sms to me!!!
tell me when, where and how long you will stay with me!
also tell me how old u are

my numbers in singapore +6584213392 or +6583513763
my number in the philippine +639433550289

my skype, email and yahoo: trisha_tr86@yahoo.com or vanessa.quidet.reputana@yahoo.com or cristal.quidet@yahoo.com or vanessa_reputana@yahoo.com

the best is u add me everywhere.... hehehe

text me soon... only sms first time!!!!
kisses vanessa
2012-07-05, 09:56:44
anonymous  
i sincerely open to you the soul,
2012-07-07, 03:26:01
anonymous  
dear all:
i have some experience with romance scam or online relationship scam.
i would like to share some knowlegde. Hope it is useful for someone.
1. Fraudesters take advantage of feelings and not brains, hold your heart before giving it away to someone you met online.
2.Be objective, focus on facts and do not assume, if you are given information about visa processes or travel requirements by your online sweetheart, visit the official government migration websites of your country to know what it takes for a person from a particular country to travel to yours.
2. It doesnt matter what is the excuse fraudsters will need money, and usually give instructions to send money transfers through Money Gram Western Union. The nature of the money transfers services makes hard to trace the receipients.and the receipient gets cash. its like handing the cash to the receipients.
3.They will create from simple help requests to very complicated situations as to why they need money.
3.Many times they ask to send money to a third party such a family member, a doctor, a police officer a govenment agent even to a hotel manager.
4.Not always scammers prettend to be sweet girls or guys in need. Many times they create a profile of a very successful person, who for a ¨special¨ situation needs your help one time and will pay back with money and love for the favor.They can send checks, money orders,even electronic transfers. and ask the victim to send money transfers instead.If you are american or canadian, the victim will have to pay back to the bank when the bank realize the check is fake.even if the bank ¨clear¨ the funds, it just mean that the client has access to the funds, not that they verified if there check is good. the process might take 3 weeks. why banks give money , cuz the account holder , the one cahsing the check is liable for it, at the end the bank doesnt lose anything and can even suit the victim.
5.sometimes they claim to be involve in an inheritance process, and they are willing to marry you and share it with you.. millions.. but she or he cant pay the legal fee, its a pity isnt it?
6.they are willing to send documents any victim needs to be convinced, it doesnt mean those docs are real. example, passports , there is no document that cant be scanned and modify nowadays.letters of lawyers, shareholding documents, certifications, govenment permits...
7. the most cruel. its true. you met a pretty girl for a couple of months,dated, and fell in love she got to travel to work to .. (abroad the country doesnt really matter) for a season... how keeping in touch.. by skype, fon, CHAT! . she ends up being the more unlucky girl, everything happens to her, she cant get paid, got her password stolen, the employers will pay till the end of the season,the scholarship was delay, she needs to pay 4 rent montsh in advance, a family memeber died and needs to go back asap...how come all those bad things happen to a single person? and how come she needs money almost every week .....
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