Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
THIS IS THE ADJEI ONE MORE TIME SHE WAS SO CLEVER TO SEND ME ALSO HER DRIVERSLICENCE
FAKE LIKE EVERYTHING THEY SEND TO YOU
PICS FROM PORNSTAR ATK EXOTIC MODEL CLEOPATRA
anonymous from Belgium
THIS IS THERE FRIEND MERVIS FRIMPONG
ALSO IN THAT GANG WITH THE 3 SISTERS SHE BORROWS HER PHONE WHEN THEY LOOSE HER INTERNETCONECTION
PEOPLE MOST THEY NOT PAY FOR INTERNET ON THERE PHONE ?????
I DONT NOW YET IFF SHE IS ALSO USISNG PICS FROM A PORNSTAR BUT I AM 90% SURE THAT SHE ALSO DOS THAT
anonymous from Canada
Anyone know of a woman going by the name Olga Malinkina.
Russian, says she is a nurse. I think I already know the answer after reading that a Russian woman cant travel out with first being visited.
street: Gagarina 10,
For my name is Olga Malinkina.
Acquainted with the Russian girl and not be deceived - it's easy.
On dating sites as they catch fish for you! Why not own 'take the bait' and not to go to catch the Russian girls where they live? At this point you can see the whole truth - no makeup, her favorite activities, etc. Russian - rather thoughtless people and many do not hide. I know this place. Maybe soon I'll show him. Good luck!
wanwan from Japan
Nice to meet you again!
I hope you remember me) I was thinking about you since you gave me your
mail address and I decided to write you. Who knows where it will lead us, right?
I don't have any marriage plans for you or something like that. I just want to
know what the person you are, because your personality intrigued me. I don't
know if you remember that I have a little daughter, who is very useful in my
life. Of course, I wish to find a caring husband for me and loving father for my
little child, but I don't want to hurry. I would like to know you better, if you
think something could work between us, if everything I wrote is close to your goals
and life position, if you are serious, write me back)
As you know, my Name is Elena or just call me Lena. I am 35 years old
and I have daughter. She is 9 years old. Is it problem for you that I have
child? It is important for me to know. We live with her alone in my
parent's house in the east side of Ukraine, Slavynsk town.
Tell me about yourself. Have you been married?Do you have children? What
do you expect of your new relations? Don't forget about your photos,
because they are the reflection of your way of life, right?) Want to know you!