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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2013-01-08, 06:33:42
wanwan from Japan  
Nadezhda <kartoshkafree@yahoo.com>



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2013-01-08, 09:52:05   (updated: 2013-01-08, 09:55:38)
Miss Marple from United States  
@Wanwan
Your Boris must be a country chicken who do not like potatoes anymore ...kartoshkafree
katorshka is potatoes in the Russian language and Katorshka free = POTATO FREE ...LOL
haaaaaaaaa...Boris wants Euro and Dollars..why Boris dont want potato anymore..?????????? LMAO

My love you can send money in the Western Union you can send as you
conveniently though to Euro though in dollars though in pounds all the
same when I will receive that they will give to me in roubles. If you
to send me now that I today I can descend in the agent and pay for all
and to us it is necessary to wait only for my arrival to you my love.


http://marriageagen..rova.html
http://www.romances..&p=225308
http://www.midlands..riend.html


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2013-01-08, 10:01:35
Miss Marple from United States  



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2013-01-08, 10:02:27
Malek  
Wanwan welcome on board, It is nice to see your posting again .

Name and email that they use or used is : Tania; ttasroketl2008@yahoo.com.
(Reported before on Tantan <kr3w0723@yahoo.com>) Pretend to come from kiev (Ukraine).

Reported before on Romance scam
http://tinyurl.com/ajshyfp

Regards




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2013-01-08, 10:59:17
Sunmse@yahoo.com from United States  
'My Lovely Scott today I listened to several times the same song: Louis
Armstrong 'Wonderful World'. You know, now I have a new understanding
of all the words of this wonderful song. I used to think everything is
simple, carefree. But now everything has changed, because you came in
my world. If you could read my thoughts, you'd be surprised, because
they all, all about you my dear Scott. I'm beginning to understand
that something happening to me. Like, would all the same: the same
walls, the same bed, the same life and the same favorite dress. But
no. Near no man who has just his presence can give me peace and a
storm of laughter and tears, smiles and sadness. Who will bring not
just emotions. Who will bring a life. Scott you're not here with me..
With every breath we live for a moment more, on one view, motion,
smile, touch, kiss. Yes, we become wiser, we gain experience and
knowledge, learn, begin to understand something. But time moves
forward. I just do not want, that the time would spared us, our
feelings and our relationship. I would like to give you a star. Their
gentle, calm light, which illuminates the night and the darkest hours
of our lives. So you could count them sitting on the porch of the
house, and know that somewhere there I was, and also looking at the
stars as you are now.
Thank you for that you have in my life! Thank you for these amazing
feeling! My dear and desires Scott now I need to go, but I hope that
you will write me soon. I'll wait.
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!
Your and only your yuliya'

For you my love.jpg

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2013-01-08, 11:01:28
[hidden] from United States  
My Lovely Bob today I listened to several times the same song: Louis
Armstrong 'Wonderful World'. You know, now I have a new understanding
of all the words of this wonderful song. I used to think everything is
simple, carefree. But now everything has changed, because you came in
my world. If you could read my thoughts, you'd be surprised, because
they all, all about you my dear Bob. I'm beginning to understand
that something happening to me. Like, would all the same: the same
walls, the same bed, the same life and the same favorite dress. But
no. Near no man who has just his presence can give me peace and a
storm of laughter and tears, smiles and sadness. Who will bring not
just emotions. Who will bring a life. Bob you're not here with me..
With every breath we live for a moment more, on one view, motion,
smile, touch, kiss. Yes, we become wiser, we gain experience and
knowledge, learn, begin to understand something. But time moves
forward. I just do not want, that the time would spared us, our
feelings and our relationship. I would like to give you a star. Their
gentle, calm light, which illuminates the night and the darkest hours
of our lives. So you could count them sitting on the porch of the
house, and know that somewhere there I was, and also looking at the
stars as you are now.
Thank you for that you have in my life! Thank you for these amazing
feeling! My dear and desires Bob now I need to go, but I hope that
you will write me soon. I'll wait.
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!
Your and only your Yuliya

For you my love.jpg
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2013-01-09, 01:23:30   (updated: 2013-01-09, 01:26:25)
wanwan from Japan  
@Malek & Miss Deep Marple in High way star
Thanks for your warm words.
I lost PC and HDD so now I can NOT enter my email addresses for scamming scammers ,LOL
Becasue I lost PC and Net work so I lost password of my mail addresses for scamming scammers.
I guess so many scammers are emailing me but now I can NOT see my scammlish emails in my box.
It wastes scammer's time.

Happy new year ! my friends.
Mata-ne=またね~♥



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2013-01-09, 13:08:17
anonymous from Turkey  



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2013-01-11, 04:22:11
elemarr@telia.cim from Sweden  
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She contacted me recently and was from Ankara, Turkey, Loved me very much and then wanted money for passport documents. Paps, Sweden


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2013-01-11, 17:51:16
Miss Marple from United States  
,2013-01-11, 04:22:11
from Sweden

Strangers asking for money is always a scam ! And this is no exception ,reported before with this same photo(s),could you please post the money asking letter with emailaddress and full name the scammer goes under,are you still in contact with the scammer ? ask for the passport and post it here,when you are done just block the scammer ! Do not send money!My guess this is a Yoskhar-Ola scammer from Russia behind the scams,did she say she is from Russia or Turkey ? Where did she want the money to be sent?


På svenska,du kan skriva på svenska här med ,är svensktalande men bosatt i Usa,så om du har probelm med engelskan inga problem ! kan du skicka in brevet när hon frågar om pengar med hennes e-post adress +pass .om du inte har passet fråga efter det med ,när du har fått kopian av passet,blockera den här bedragaren och givetvis skicka inga pengar! kom tillbaka och berätta din historia ,var du träffade henne,vilken nationalitet,var pengarna ska skickas etc. Troligen är det här en bedragare från Ryssland ,och troligen ingen kvinna heller bakom det här,det mesta bedrägerierna är män som använder sig av stulna foton och bedrar män med.

http://www.romances..&p=214543
http://www.anti-sca..ion_6.htm
http://www.delphifa..htm?#18271
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2013-01-24, 18:34:42
anonymous from United States  



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2013-02-04, 08:48:13
anonymous from United States  
My personal Reply to; Anonymous From Ethiopia... Posted on 2012-11-01 Relax friend, it is possible you are in no immediate danger, but consider what additional information ( if any ) you may have given. Strictly monitor all of your personal and business affiliated accounts for any type of fraud... Seek any and all information given by others at this site and simiar sites, for guidance and reassurance in your own case. Continue to support this effort. ~ Bax! Feb. 2013
2013-02-06, 23:20:16   (updated: 2013-02-06, 23:22:52)
anonymous from Russian Federation  
OMG boys, why are you so stupid?to Miss Marple- if the girls letter not in Russian, and if you see such a pic from a girl who lives in the muslim country -that means she is a slut. If the girls send you her nude pics and she looks like a supermodel, she is a slut. if she asked your money, or she starts telling you-oh, I'm in love with you, pls, come and take me-that's scam. That's so simple!If you want a russian girl use facebook or vkontakte.com but NEVER use some websites like Russians brides or something like this shit. Russian girls are just any other girls, we just love make up and high heels, and most of us can cook, clean and do the laundry. You just need to look at yourself. if you look like Brad Pitt, so go on, find a supermodel from Russia and f..k her. If not, stop trying to find a hot russian girl, just meet a nice women, talk to her, and if you have the same goals in life- like family, children, traveling etc. just visit her. or you can meet somewhere else, in Thai for example, it is very cheap for russians nowadays.
I'm just an usual girl from Russia, so forgive my mistakes.
2013-02-07, 18:08:20
Miss Marple from United States  
RE:2013-02-06, 23:20:16 (updated: 2013-02-06, 23:22:52)
anonymous from Russian Federation

It is easy to get scammed if you do not know how the scams works out,lot of people are still unfortunately unaware what organized scams are online ,but the more information that is available less scams in the future ,that is what these anti scam sites are for to provide information to people and educate them how to avoid online scammers...

Well we all have our cultures and differences and what way women wants to express them selves in high heels or not, and how women wants to look like ,but for that sake it is not legal to abuse and scam people .I assume the advice of yours are to all men not to me as I am not a man.

Well i know for a fact that Vkontakte is not a scam free environment as the same goes for Facebook so people has to watch out where ever you are online today.Be cautious to any stranger that takes contact out from the blue and wants to be your friend.
2013-02-08, 11:30:13
Kelvin dappa from United States  
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Am kelvin dappa by name am an upcomin artist of Nigeria,i need a gril that can help me so we can mary blackpeacedhunter@yahoo.com or +2348066609667.


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