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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2013-03-13, 05:22:59
OJAS from United States  
Thanks DOC.
Hold a passport like that, the top half will flop.
2013-03-14, 15:18:06
anonymous from United Kingdom  
This person is a scam on Russiancupid

liza-prosto84@yandex.ru

Standard letter reads -

Hello my dear xxxxx. I am very glad that you responded to my interest. Our communication has started and I'm happy.
I have no friends outside of my country and I am very interested to learn you closer. I hope that we can find common language,
despite the fact that we live in different countries. I know English, I taught English in school and in college. But I do not know it perfectly.
Sometimes I have to use a translator, but I do not see a problem with this. I think people can understand each other without words,
if they have a great desire. At a meeting I can explain something to you through gestures and facial expressions. And I am sure you can easily understand me.
I want to tell you more about my life and for you to better understand me. I was born and grew up in Moscow city.
I'm 167 cm, 46 kg, my birthday 30 April 1984. My childhood was very lively and happy. I confess that I was not a quiet child.
I graduated from high school and college. I have a secondary technical education of mechanical engineering. I completed courses hairdresser and masseuse,
a hairdresser working in a local beauty salon. I am not the owner of salon, so my salary is not big. But I'm not complaining about life,
I have enough to eat and sometimes go to the cinema with friends. I do not have a driver's license and have no car.
But I dream to learn to drive a car and plane. Jon, you know how to drive a car? How do you feel about technology? Do you love pets? What pets do you have?
I love horse riding. As a child I sometimes went to the racetrack. My friends were doing it professionally and I was very interested to observe the animals.
My mother's four cats, three girls and one boy. Mama jokes and calls it a feline harem. In my college there was a group of students who sewed costumes
and learned to dance. I have great pleasure involved in amateur. Teachers College is well encouraged our efforts and some exams I passed with no problems.
We danced at various festivals and I'm very fond of my dance team. But the study ended. Now I have very little free time, my schedule is very tight.
I work 6 days a week. Sunday Closed. Usually, my day off I was doing cleaning my humble dwelling. I do not have home internet, because my house is very old.
Internet-based company declined to connect the house to escape the Internet. I rent an apartment on the edge of my town. It's not expensive and very quiet area.
But even in this very quiet area are sleepless restless nights. My mother lives far from the city, she was tired of city life, and when I graduated from college,
we moved to live in a village about 200 km from the city. I did not find a decent job, and already 3 years I lived without a mother. I very rarely go to it.
Much time is necessary for the journey and I have no spare money to travel frequently to the village. But we often write letters to each other.
I love my mom and I sometimes feel sad without her. She works as a kindergarten teacher. I often spend time with my mother in kindergarten. I love little kids.
I do what I can not write about my father because I do not know him. He threw my mom when she was pregnant. This is a very bad thing.
I think that having a baby is a very responsible action, and future parents need to carefully prepare for this important step.
xxxx, how do you feel about this?
I finish my letter and sent you some photos. Frankly, the first time in several years, my heart is sincere smiles. It smiles at you, xxx.
I look forward to your new letters and photos.
With best wishes and with a passionate kiss from Russia, your new friend Liza
2013-03-16, 17:40:15
anonymous from Norway  
It just came to mind that when I asked Nell Love a question,the answer came from Shila Adu,hmmm
Nell has lovenell33@yahoo.com and Shila has been introduced before,and got a IPhone she uses,both of them

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2013-03-16, 17:40:24
anonymous from Norway  
It just came to mind that when I asked Nell Love a question,the answer came from Shila Adu,hmmm
Nell has lovenell33@yahoo.com and Shila has been introduced before,and got a IPhone she uses,both of them

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2013-03-16, 17:40:25
anonymous from Norway  
It just came to mind that when I asked Nell Love a question,the answer came from Shila Adu,hmmm
Nell has lovenell33@yahoo.com and Shila has been introduced before,and got a IPhone she uses,both of them

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2013-03-16, 22:15:06
anonymous  
The pic of the girl using lipstick belongs to the stripper porn floozy 'Julie Yuliana' and this same picture was posted on this site back in 2008. See below ...

Dating scammer Rhoda Naa from Accra, Ghana - Page 41
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2013-03-17, 08:09:47   (updated: 2013-03-17, 08:12:09)
DOC from United States  
same picture was posted on this site back in 2008 http://www.delphifa..htm#77349

Julie Yuliana http://www.delphifa..-342&y=-38
2013-03-21, 00:09:58
anonymous from Poland  
natalyaxorosha@yahoo.com


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2013-03-21, 00:11:58
anonymous from Poland  
natalyaxorosha@yahoo.com


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2013-03-21, 11:08:18
OJAS from United States  
@Poland,
Such a good-looking girl on so many dating sites = SCAM!
The photos are stolen and used by MALE scammers!

http://google.com/s..36837.jpg

Useful reverse image search tools:
http://google.com/imghp
http://google.com/i..mage.html
http://tineye.com

Post
1) Where scammer met you, scammer profile, profile photos
2) Scammer X-Mailer from email Headers
3) Scammer Sender IP, trace from the Headers.

http://www.delphifa..p=4#133895
2013-03-25, 09:08:01
Scott  
lananekras@yahoo.com

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2013-03-29, 07:34:34
anonymous  
rating
hello guys to day i got a mail from MISS.JANE DUNCAN ) above same message
and same pic of red color dress ........
his/her mentioned some detiles .... use some i serach in google i got this link and here lots of info about them now i wake'up
fist time i awaked some one trying to scam me..... off coerce they dnt know they r facing with
group of hackers ...... will play with them... care full guys some more day ther is a chance to you also posted one comment here
carefull and safe browsing.....
2013-03-29, 09:07:48
OJAS from United States  
2013-03-30, 14:05:21
anonymous from United States  

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2013-03-30, 14:21:53
anonymous from United States  
is she real
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