Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
Just a reminder some of these young ladies are in universities working on graduate degrees, so they are pretty savvy with internet communication skills, and are aware of the various anonymous web proxies that are available. Not all scams originate from West Africa ! A lot of female college students finding themselves saddled with debt, are looking for financial benefits using the old sugar daddy routine that gold-diggers like to use. Beware !
[hidden] from United Kingdom
I am chatting to someone called Tanya (TATYANA POGADAEVA) i want to know if anyone had been speaking too please
Glenn from United States
If you don't want to be scammed, don't go to the dating site called Badoo. They all say that they live in the USA, but once you start talking with them, they are either in Ghana, Nigeria, Ethiopia, or UK. They are all lying little witch's.
Has anyone seen or have had contact with her. She says that she sales top of the line merchandise from the Uae. At first she did not ask for any money but now, she says that the shipping company will not ship her merchandise. They say that she owes them $15,000.00 of which she has already paid $15,000.00 of the $30,000.00 that she owes. She gave me a e-mail with a company called Since from the UAE. Here is a picture of her. Of course I am not going to pay a penny for her merchandise to come to the USA.
Sorry don't know why the photo will not come through.
I am chatting to someone called Tanya (TATYANA POGADAEVA) >>>
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Miss Marple from United States
[hidden] from United Kingdom
The name do give hits ,but not the photo.Has she asked for money? Never send money to strangers online.Real honest Russian women do not ask for money ,only scammers remember that .Real honest people do not send form letters only scammers do that.Check the header in the mails if you see the (The Bat! )on the headers as X-Mailer then you are probably dealing with someone that uses a mass mailer program ,(sign for a scammer ) . Come back and give more information on this women you have met . I will try to help you out .
All kind regards //Miss Marple//
Miss Marple from United States
Just a reminder some of these young ladies are in universities working on graduate degrees, so they are pretty savvy with internet communication skills, and are aware of the various anonymous web proxies that are available. Not all scams originate from West Africa ! A lot of female college students finding themselves saddled with debt, are looking for financial benefits using the old sugar daddy routine that gold-diggers like to use.Beware
I am just curious on your posting where you have got this information from ? If a person is a Gold digger as far as I know they are real people ,real life scammers and scams under their real names Gold diggers do not hide them self under open proxies as scammers that scams under fake names online .So what country are we talking about in this case? USA,Europe ?
sorry don't know why the photo will not come through.
This site accepts only photos in JPEG -Format ,so png and other formats do not work.You can easily convert photos by open up the photo in the paint program and save the photo as JPEG or convert online ,couple of links here to your help.