Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
I have been exchanging e-mails with a Russian woman named Tatyana or (Tanya), for about a month now. She is from Gryazi. She told me that she loved me after the fifth or sixth letter. I would ask her questions about things she said in her letters and never got an answer for any of them. She sends me one or two pictures with every e-mail. I was beginning to have suspicions but kept on e-mailing her, And i would marry this girl if she is legit. As of this moment she has traveled to Moscow, passed her interview, and will be getting her visa in a few days. She hasn't yet asked me for money, but i'm sure it's only a matter of time. I know that this has to be a scam. I'm in my 50's, and i'm a very poor catch for any woman who is looking for a nice looking guy. I sent her my picture, and she would not acknowledge that she received it when i asked her about it. I am truly glad i found this site. She did send me a picture of herself sitting on a park bench with an older lady that i took to be her mother. When i asked her about it all i got for an answer was silence. She said she was 30yrs old, by the way. In the course of our correspondence i gave her my first name, and my middle name, but not my last name. I also told her what town i live in, as well as my home state, but not my address. I told her what airport i could meet her at. My question to anyone that knows about these matters is, can this woman, or anyone she may be working with, do any damage to my finances? I realize this may be a stupid question, but i really don't know much about computers, and have heard reports of people having their bank accounts, and credit cards raided by computer hackers. This has got me a little nervous. Could someone weigh in here. Should i be worried?
anonymous from United States
Tanya finally hit me up for the cash today. She said that she needs the money for insurance, and that she won't spend any of it. She needs $2000. This is the only letter that she has sent to me that didn't have a picture with it. She said she would send copies of her documentation, if it would help. I told her to do so, and that i would see what i could do. I asked her to give me a couple of days. I have not seen Tanya's picture on this site, and would like to believe she is real. It is really maddening how some girl you have never met can get under your skin.
Here are a some thoughts to keep in mind when contacted by a sexy Russian babe who professes romantic interests. If she talks about getting a visa to the USA instead of inviting you to come there - under current immigration law - it's a SURE sign that SHE LIES !
It doubtful the Russian woman could get permission to leave Russia unless she has a fiancee visa used for marriage based immigration. In order for her to get this type visa, you must first visit her in her native homeland. You get engaged during such a visit, then fly back to the USA and apply for the proper marriage visa. After the visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and after all the guidelines are met, she can get a greencard to work and eventual US citizenship.
I thought that all is behind us and there is no more barriers in front of us
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