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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2015-01-24, 14:54:31
[hidden] from Canada  
Hello Folks,
here is another scammer - Flirty9 dot com dating site id - cuteloveoo64 -
Email - cuteloveoo64@yahoo.com - Name - Mary - Cute Love - Top of profile says
following - WARNING!!! User profile might be fake, because users IP belongs to
another country: Germany

Profile Data - 25 years old - from: United States - looking for a man - Hobbies
and Interests - seeking for real love..... - Partner Expectations - meeting for
real asap.... - About Me - am mary.25 single never married and no kids..i live
in colorado with ma granny..i am 5'4..117lbs..34E (75E) bra..waist 28 hips:30..i
am hard hearing and i hope you dont mind..am not here to text or play around. i
want to meet for real asap..Im here seeking for 1 on 1 s_x or a relationship and
see where it leads to...... - Relationship - I am looking for a man that is
caring, loving, honest, faithful, loyal, romantic, homourous, communicative,
passionate,intimate, affectionate, loves spending time with their woman, and
also looking for a f__kbuddie and see where it goes from there...love is really
hard to find if u know what i mean

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end of profile data
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The person uses the following profile picture -

http://postimg.org/..t35mxnxml

There is a duplicate profile on Waplog dot com id - cuteloveoo89 - Female , 24,
Single United States , COLORADO - About - Hello how are you doing today...? am
mary.24 single never married and no kids..i live in colorado,am not here to text
or play around. i want to meet for real asap..Im here seeking for 1 on 1 s_x or
a relationship and see where it leads to.... - Personal Info - Relationship
Status: Single - Interested In: Man - Looking For: Dating - Eye Color: black -
Hair Color: Dark blonde

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end of profile data
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Note Waplog id cuteloveoo64 is a profile that uses a picture of Adultstar Raven
Riley - not sure if there is any connection. cuteloveoo89 on Waplog is same
person as id cuteloveoo64 on Flirty9 as I got message from person, 2 stickers
that were kisses. It is my fake sweetheart. Same person.

Description of Scam - the person is using stolen pictures of adult amateur star
'Little Bailey' meets people on Flirty9 and or Waplog id I mentioned above,
after a few messages on dating site, email and Yahoo Messenger the person
arranges sensual meeting, says she likes to travel, person requests for money
via Western Union to pay for the gas to drive with their car to where person is
located for sensual encounter.

Here are the pictures person sent me in email -
http://postimg.org/../t35mxnxml http://postimg.org/..mdz3hncal
http://postimg.org/../koq09kwl9 http://postimg.org/..q1eunpkhp

Pesons messages to me on Flirty - (I am only going to post messages I feel are
important to the scam report)

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cuteloveoo64 - Hello How are you doing today.. well am a new member here and i
will like to know you better, if you dont mind you can get to me about you and
then let me know if you single or married and what you really looking for in
here...
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your age and location pls?
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am mary.25 single never married and no kids..i live in colorado with ma
granny..i am 5'4..117lbs..34E (75E) bra..waist 28 hips:30..i am hard hearing and
i hope you dont mind..am not here to text or play around. i want to meet for
real asap..Im here seeking for 1 on 1 s_x or a relationship and see where it
leads to
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and you your name?
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Im a very caring person that likes to be around people that enjoy life and love
to have fun. I'm a simple down to earth person who isn't much into the
materialistic things in life. I value the people who come and go in my life and
their friendship. I'm a very easy person to get a long with and once you really
get to know me you'll see that I have a lot of love to give and I'm very
understanding. I like to travel and see and do different things especially
things outdoors.
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7204405403 here is my phone number lets talk on phone and share some pics and
see where it leads to
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ok then here is mine cuteloveoo64@yahoo.com
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ok then we can text through mobile number then
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well we can set that up..thats why am on the site lol..looking for someone to
meet for real and not just cyber...life is too short
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cuteloveoo64@yahoo.com
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here is my yh id cuteloveoo64 at yh do com
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did you add me on messenger
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i will like to chat with you soon on messenger
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mwahhhh! baby
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hi honey how arw you doing today
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thats it let's talk and see how it leads to from there
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well baby i gat my car i can drive to you...give me ur address so i can check
maps for distance and directions so i know how much i need for gas
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i just check the cost of driving from here to you now is $148
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time are hard now i don't have fund for gas....
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only if you can send me money through western union
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End of Applicable Flirty9 chat with cutelove0064
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Yahoo Messenger message history applicable to scam
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cuteloveoo64: Baby will you send the money today baby so I can come over to you
in the morning tomorrow baby
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Or do you have a Walgreen store around you there baby
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Name: Shane Eaves City: Clewiston State: Florida Zip Code: 33440
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So how much you going send to me dear
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OK then can you send me $200..in case I want to buy something on the road while
I'm coming cos I'm going to drive alone so it won't be too dull baby
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OK baby....how long will it take you dear...
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Name: Shane Eaves City: Clewiston State: Florida Zip Code: 33440
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That's the whole address you need to use ok

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End of applicable Yahoo Messenger posts
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Email 1
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Received from - cuteloveoo64@yahoo.com - Name - cute love - Date - Thu, Jan 15,
2015 at 11:19 PM - IP Address according to Whatismyipaddress - 178.162.199.118 -
Country - Germany - Latitude - 51 - Longitude - 9

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subject - Hi dear
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body -

Here are some pics of me dear hope u get that

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end of email
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the person attached the four pictures I posted above
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Email 2
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Received from - cuteloveoo64@yahoo.com - Name - cute love - Date - Fri, Jan 23,
2015 at 7:29 PM - IP Address according to Whatismyipaddress - 5.2.69.11 -
Country - Netherlands - Latitude - 52.3667 - Longitude - 4.9

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body -

OK my love just got the message now my love...

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end of email
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See you and be safe
mdgposter


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2015-01-24, 14:56:24
mdgposter1 from Canada  
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2015-01-24, 14:57:08
mdgposter1 from Canada  
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2015-01-24, 14:57:47
mdgposter1 from Canada  
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2015-02-01, 18:11:52
anonymous from United Kingdom  
I to have been contacted by a Russian woman , I knew it was a scam from the out set but played along to see if I could get some more explicit photos from her ( sorry I'm a pervert )

Her name was Natalya pavlova from Usinsk
She has contacted me on 2 different email accounts
elonatals@emialgogle.com
Elonatals@yandex.com

I have also found her profile on a dating app called badoo

Am going to try and upload a couple of pictures of her




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2015-02-10, 12:28:01
anonymous from United States  
She told me she was from Hungary and that her name is Natalya Minzurenko and currently living in Rotterdam. She even sent me an image of her Dutch 'passport,' no doubt a fake too. Another thing to look out for is these unbelievable sob stories about being an orphan. Every scammer I've ever met also has a way of answering every question EXCEPT THE ONE(S) YOU ASK! In all the time I've been communication with her she has never yet answered one of my questions.
2015-02-10, 22:28:47
anonymous  
News - Stop-scammers
www.stop-scammers.com/news/news_item.asp?NewsID=459
Nov 7, 2014 - Updated scammers profile .... Date Hook Up, Date Me Free, Dating, Discreet Affairs, Erovie, Face Book, ... aka: 'Natalia Minzurenko', Svetlana Putilova
2015-03-15, 16:32:56
eardleyscheffer@att.net from United States  



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2015-03-21, 08:45:23
anonymous from United States  



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2015-04-11, 04:25:45
anonymous from Canada  



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2015-04-13, 15:42:33
[hidden] from Velletri, Italy  
Natalya Povova 30 years old, she says that lost her father when her mother was pregnant and so she never knows her father. Her mother died 10 years ago and she is alone without brothers and sisters. She says she is a dentist and work in clinic and lives in Usinsk with her white dog Chipa and her only friend Marina. scammer 100%


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2015-04-13, 15:43:13
anonymous from Italy  
Natalya Povova 30 years old, she says that lost her father when her mother was pregnant and so she never knows her father. Her mother died 10 years ago and she is alone without brothers and sisters. She says she is a dentist and work in clinic and lives in Usinsk with her white dog Chipa and her only friend Marina. scammer 100%
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Elena Kislyh



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