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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2015-04-13, 15:44:14
anonymous from Italy  
Natalya Povova 30 years old, she says that lost her father when her mother was pregnant and so she never knows her father. Her mother died 10 years ago and she is alone without brothers and sisters. She says she is a dentist and work in clinic and lives in Usinsk with her white dog Chipa and her only friend Marina. scammer 100%


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2015-04-13, 15:45:20
anonymous from Italy  
Natalya Povova 30 years old, she says that lost her father when her mother was pregnant and so she never knows her father. Her mother died 10 years ago and she is alone without brothers and sisters. She says she is a dentist and work in clinic and lives in Usinsk with her white dog Chipa and her only friend Marina. scammer 100%
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2015-04-13, 23:46:26
anonymous  
Stop Scammer ID #1259. 'Natasha Popova' from Biysk. Stop ...

www.antiscam-net.info/scammer/1259.html

Scammer ID #1259 FROM Biysk. Stop dating scam
2015-04-14, 00:27:14
anonymous  
victoria khalil <khalilvic@hotmail.com> - Romance Scam

www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=87094

Apr 2, 2015 - My name is 'Victoria khalil',I am 23years old, single, tall and fair in complexion,some people say i am attractive but i believe i am good looking,i
2015-04-21, 01:17:52
anonymous from United States  
please help with this girl..going by the name anita maryson
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2015-04-21, 01:18:16
anonymous from United States  
please help with this girl..going by the name anita maryson
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2015-04-21, 01:27:23
anonymous from United States  
MORE OF ANITA..HELP


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2015-04-21, 01:30:32
anonymous from United States  
one more of anita


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2015-04-21, 02:49:11
anonymous from Norway  
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This scammer is also saying she is a frenchman, living in Ivory Coast and with name Reine Samuel and with email address reinesamuel1986@live.fr
2015-05-03, 17:50:38
anonymous from Sweden  
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Natalya 30 years old, she says that lost her father when her mother was pregnant and so she never knows her father. Her mother died 12 years ago and she is alone without brothers and sisters. She says she is a dentist and work in clinic and lives in Usinsk with her white dog Chipa and her only two friend Marina and someone else. Does not give away her address or phone number. scammer 100%
2015-05-03, 17:53:56
anonymous from Sweden  
Natalya 30 years old, she says that lost her father when her mother was pregnant and so she never knows her father. Her mother died 12 years ago and she is alone without brothers and sisters. She says she is a dentist and work in clinic and lives in Usinsk with her white dog Chipa and her only two friend Marina and someone else. Does not give away her address or phone number. scammer 100%
Here with pic..
2015-05-03, 18:02:16
anonymous from Sweden  

2015-05-03, 22:27:47
anonymous  
Oh yes, I think I know your Russian dentist girlfriend Natalya or maybe her true name is Evgeniya. Here's her picture. She tells me she's invented a new prophylactic toothbrush she's use as a phallus brush for my pleasure.

'I think, that you the most interesting and understanding man. I'm very glad, that the destiny has allowed us to get acquainted. Also you shouldknow, I feel, that my heart has the big frequencywhen I read lines of your letter!I hope, you will help to accelerate frequency ofmy heart soon! I very much thirst to meet you. My holiday will be very soon, and I wish to meet! I wish to learn this week more in detail that is necessary for me for arrival to you. You not against if I will arrive to you? Could you acceptme at your home? I think, it would be remarkable! I would like to have this unforgettable travel! After a seminar, I will receive the salary onwork, and I think it should suffice for arrival to you.

But to a seminar I should have nearby 1600dollars and if you could help me with 800 dollars, I would be very grateful. After all as I have already told, reception of this diploma much morewill facilitate for me reception of work at you,and I can earn more.'




Your gentle dentist Evgeniya



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2015-05-14, 17:28:11
anonymous from Canada  
ONE correction:

In referring to the Russian (or Ukrainian) lady can get a visa you stated - '....First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country....'


This is absolutely untrue! Neither the Russian Federation nor Ukraine control their citizen's freedom to travel abroad. I have had two different young ladies visit me in the past few years. One from Russia and one from Ukraine. They were both single and under 40. Neither one of them had to consult with their own government to leave their country before they came to see me in Canada. People in the old USSR had travel restrictions but you're out of date with your information by about 24 years!

One more note; both women did have to apply for a Canadian visitor's visa and one of them had to travel to the Canadian embassy for an interview before a visa was granted. Today people in Russia have arguably more freedoms than the Americans or Canadians! So please lets shed our minds from old world Soviet thinking. Their freedoms have increased while ours have decreased.

2015-05-14, 20:04:48
anonymous  
Ukrainian citizens are required to have a visa to enter the United States. However, Ukraine does participate in a Visa Waiver Program that allows its citizens to visit 22 other countries without certain visa requirements.
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