Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
Hello my new friend Michael! I'm very glad you're interested in me.
And I'll try to keep you disappointed me, and knew as much about me.
But I just want to know you better. I want to say that it is very
pleased to receive your letter and I think we need to start dating! I
want to talk a little bit about yourself! My name is Irina, if you
wish, you can just call Irka! I live in Russia, in the city of Kazan.
I am 28 years old. Perhaps you are now wondering why Russian girl
wants to find a man from another country. When that my heart was
broken, I loved the man and thought he ideal that wants to build a
family, unfortunately this story is very sad ending, which really did
not want to remember. After this respect, I am afraid to someone to
start a relationship with a man from Russia, since most men are not
serious. Who only think how to spend the evening in the company of a
sweet and beautiful girl. As I can not understand it! And so that's
why I decided to look for a man over the Internet. Personally, I think
the only way to find a man like that will understand and devote more
time to his girlfriend! Dear, I'll hope that you will treat my every
word very seriously, and so I try to keep our communication! Now
continue to talk about themselves. My height is 168 centimeters, I
hope that is not too small:-). My weight - 55 kg. About my hobby: in
my spare time I like to walk in the park, go hiking with friends, love
animals. The family I was an only child, I have no brothers or
sisters. I did when was not married and have no children. Have you
been married? Do you have children? In my spare time I like to walk
around the city, sometimes go to visit their parents! I love sports,
cooking, watching different TV shows, comedy! From all I like Jim
Carrey! All his films are very funny and ridiculous! You were watching
movies, 'Me, Myself & Irene,' 'The Mask,' Always say 'Yes'? But the
best film it - it's 'Mr. Popper's Penguins'! I think this film is the
best! I liked the way Jim Carrey began to care for penguins and based
on that realized that the family is the most important! He began to
fight for his love! I advise you to see this movie! Just like to look
smart and historical films. Let's say I really like the movie 'The Da
Vinci Code', 'Angels and Demons' and much more. Dear friend, now I
want you to tell us a little about yourself! How do you like to spend
your time? Where to work? I beg you to answer my questions and so I
can understand your serious attitude to our acquaintance! Okay? We
gradually need to learn more about each other. Only in this way can be
found all human qualities. And in the end you can draw conclusions, we
are approaching each other! Dear friend, I want to ask you, you to
send me some of his pictures, so our communication will be even more
interesting! Do not be afraid to ask me questions, I will reply to
all, if not immediately, then gradually. I think that you do not mind?
I want to say that you do not hurt me, because I am very fragile girl.
At the same time I want to finish my first letter! Sincerely, Irina
P.S. I'm posting a couple of his pictures, I hope you like it!
Hello, I am currently working in Iraq, but am a US Citizen. I have been corresponding with this 28 year old Dentist from Orel, Russia. I have been corresponding with her for several weeks now, and she has been answering all my letters with original responses, because she details all my questions. But then I got nervous because she said something about needing help to get tickets when the time comes, and so, I wrote her and accused her of being a scammer. But then today, I wanted to see if she would answer my specific questions and she did, she gave me her full name and address with zip code as well as the name of the dental Clinic and street address. The problem is, I can not verify anything, because it doesn't seem to be pulling up my queries. Anyone have any suggestions. I'd hate to be slamming the door on a good thing is she is in fact a Dentist and just having a few troubles. She even volunteered to take a picture with my name on it yesterday and did send that to me, see attached. Please let me know something, my e-mail is email@example.com
Q. I am corresponding with a Russian woman. Is she a scammer?
A. Probably yes :) If you are here looking for information on Russian scammers, you have probably noticed something suspicious (she asked you for money, or there was some other red flag). If that is the case, she most likely is a scammer. Genuine, honest Russian women will never ask for money
How are you doing I am hoping you are doing good ? is been a very long time.
how is everything going on with your life.
Is me Thedora keeling and I have really miss you so much and wanted to know how you are doing.
Do all your best and write back to me again. And let see weather we can make thing happen and finally be with each other and spend the rest of our live together.
I have miss your call and mail.
so I will wait for your mail.
You people who think you are being scammed from a woman, or man from another country for example. By just Locating the potential scammer's email address. This is explained by just doing a Google search on Tracing internet Ip addresses. It will waste no more of your time if the sender is not from country/ city, he/she claims to be from in their emails to you. Once you locate senders IP address, trace it and the rest is common sense. This will save you from a great deal of grief and aggravation sooner rather than later.
is she real if she writes me from russia? and asks for me to help her pay for her visa?
OJAS from United States
2015-09-25, 19:44:37 (updated: 2015-09-25, 19:46:52)
anonymous from United States
is she real if she writes me from russia? and asks for me to help her pay for her visa?
The "she" is a HE!
the "real" is a stolen pic
"russia " is Yohkar-Ola or a proxy ... trace the IP
"asks for me to help her pay" - Asking money from strangers is a scam! REAL Russian girls don't ask money from strangers.
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these are pictures from a person I believe was trying to scam me.
anonymous from United States
Goes by the name Elena, Ekatrina and Marina.
This one is very intelligent, she spends the time to write directly to you, very attentive and convincing, she will spent 1 month writing me a lengthy letter each day.. She works the Travel/Visa Scam, says she wants to come see you and never asks for money until after she claims that she paid for the Visa and now needs help with the airfare.. She claims the city has NO Phone, but they have banks, but she has NO account, only Western Union.. Passport pic was clearly forged, she goes by many names, don't be fooled! She is 100% scam artist, and a good one!