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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2016-02-04, 18:10:23
anonymous  
Found out he's dating hundreds n hundreds of women n sex sites. Dated over a year n said we're getting married n he even came up with names for our babies that we're going to have,I was the only one smart enough to bust him. But he's still contacting me n others want to get the word out.



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2016-02-29, 22:42:01
anonymous  



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2016-05-11, 23:21:07
anonymous from France  



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2016-05-22, 00:06:59
anonymous from Poland  



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2016-05-30, 16:50:56
anonymous from United States  



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2016-05-30, 16:56:08
anonymous from United States  
I am pleased that you tell me about you. It is interesting to know about you a lot of new and interesting.

For me also pleased to answer your questions.
What are your plans for the future? new love? the woman?
I live alone and I need the right man who will be with me..
I think the most important thing in a relationship is love and understanding..
It is also important to respect and trust each other. Chris what do you think?
In my free time I like to watch interesting movies. comedy or movies about love.

2016-05-30, 17:07:24
anonymous from United States  
I spoke with my boss.. He said that I could take a vacation next month..
Then we could meet and get to know each other better. Chris what do you think?

2016-05-30, 18:06:30
anonymous from United States  
Time passes quickly. But I still feel a kind of emptiness.
I want to find a man with whom I will be happy. With whom I have common interests.
Together with my man I want to make plans and spending free time.
Again, I want to be bright and positive feelings. And you?
2016-05-30, 18:52:11
anonymous from United States  
Darya Vahrusheva
2016-05-30, 23:06:37   (updated: 2016-05-30, 23:08:51)
anonymous from United States  



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2016-06-16, 11:15:56
anonymous from United Kingdom  
I do agree on Rocco Macusi. Watch out he is mental!


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2016-06-20, 08:21:46   (updated: 2016-08-25, 20:39:50)
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Hi this Russian girl has been Emailing me her name is Anna Gorbatch from tomsk her email address is ankakitty@hottamial.com I cannot find her on any scammers lists
This is some of the emails she has been sending

:))hello honey!!
I really hope that you read all my previous mails and that now
you know about all my plans about my trip.
And I hope that you like my letters and what I am writing...
I forgot to tell you in my previous letters that I love cooking.
I can cooking many different things but my favorite thing it is Fitness menu ))
It helps me to be in good shape ))) If you want I will teach you ;))
Do you love theatres ?? Museums?? Cinema?? I like it very much. I have many beautiful dresses for this...
I think that woman have to be beautiful in the theatre...
But there we have no theatre and usually I go to nearest big city with my girlfriends...
Do you have theatre in your area???
Recently I was in the cinema on the movie ' Star Wars '
It is the most beautiful film what I have seen in my life... Did you see it?? If not - you must to do it!
So... what else can I say? now I have some good news for you!
After sending this email I will go home, take my packed bags and go to Tomsk! From there I will fly to Moscow!
I'm really afraid! It is several hours fly from Tomsk to Moscow. when I come to Moscow
I will write you ...
But please don't worry about me if you will not hear from me tomorrow,
that will mean I was not able to find a place to stay and I will write you after tomorrow!!!
Ok??
In Moscow I will spend a 3-4 day or maybe even more,
I should make all final arrangements with my documents and after it I will come to you!
I AM SO HAPPY!!!
I really want to talk to you by phone, but if you remember it is impossible because of American's sanctions..,
I will try to find a public phone in Moscow with international calls.
you know...
I feel myself now like little bird... bird who go out of the cage!!!
Sorry.. Again I am writing like little girl..
.Well, now I need to go.
(I sent you these photos because I know that real man want to see his future woman with all details..
And I respect it.
But I ask you again - Please do not show it to someone..It is special for you )
Yours Annet
Kisss.....



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2016-06-20, 10:18:26
DOC from United States  

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2016-06-26, 11:09:58
anonymous from Norway  
Thanks for that you answer my questions. How your day? This night I had a fine dream. I have woken up with a happy smile. You have dreamt me, I was very happy. All the day long I have good mood. In my city now weather warm. Nothing can spoil mine moods today. I rejoice to that I had you! For the sake of ours with you of happiness I am ready to change the life. I am ready to arrive to you.
My darling, today I thought as we we can will meet much. Between us there is a sympathy. I am assured that we with you sympathy will grow in love at a meeting. I want to be assured that ours with you of feeling mutual. It is necessary for me to be assured that you will meet me at the airport. I do not have many money, and I not from a rich family. But it is not a pity to me of money for ours with you of a meeting. I have a feeling of pleasure which has appeared since first day of our acquaintance. From my life the feeling of loneliness was gone. It is pleasant to me to realise that in the World there is a person who thinks of me. I want to have from you care. I want to know that I can rely on you completely. You can care of me in your country? If I arrive to the airport and I will not see you I will receive a lot of anxiety. Not each girl will dare at flight in the unfamiliar country to the man. But I courageous!
Today I have important news. I called in the visa centre which is in city Krasnoyarsk. Now I know the information which is necessary for me for travel to your country. I should visit personally the visa centre to issue the visa. Already my vacation tomorrow will begin. And at any time I can begin preparation of documents. To me have told that I should give in the visa centre for visa reception. The international passport, 2 colour photos, the reference, the questionnaire, the filled questionnaire and the inquiry on incomes. To me set many questions by phone... Asked, whether I know English language? I have told that I know. Also me asked about duration of my travel. I had to answer many questions, but they were not difficult for me. Optimum type of the visa to me - the Tourist. The tourist visa operates throughout 180 calendar days, is called as the multivisa. The visa allows the visitor to be in the country till 90 days. When I will be in Krasnoyarsk, I will rent a room. The hotel costs much. I will need to live in Krasnoyarsk about 8 days. Also I have learnt about cost of registration of the visa (about 7000 roubles). The price include consular and service gathering. I asked about cost of air tickets, but the girl in the visa centre could not answer my question precisely. To me have told that the prices constantly change. It is connected with constantly changing exchange rate. When I will be in Krasnoyarsk, I will visit the airport to buy tickets. I have savings to spend vacation. I have received a salary. I hope that means will suffice me.
I should spend many money for registration of the visa and purchase of tickets. I will spend money for residing in Krasnoyarsk. Therefore you should assure me that will care of me! I want to have guarantees of that you can meet me at the airport! I should know that I will be in safety with you. Excuse that I ask you about it. Our meeting - the big step to our life. I listen to the heart... My heart says that together we will be the happiest. Please, tell to me your thoughts. I will wait your letter. I do not want to lose any day from my vacation. Now I will go to the boss to receive inquiries which will be necessary for me in visa reception. I miss you.
2016-06-26, 11:09:58
anonymous from Norway  
Thanks for that you answer my questions. How your day? This night I had a fine dream. I have woken up with a happy smile. You have dreamt me, I was very happy. All the day long I have good mood. In my city now weather warm. Nothing can spoil mine moods today. I rejoice to that I had you! For the sake of ours with you of happiness I am ready to change the life. I am ready to arrive to you.
My darling, today I thought as we we can will meet much. Between us there is a sympathy. I am assured that we with you sympathy will grow in love at a meeting. I want to be assured that ours with you of feeling mutual. It is necessary for me to be assured that you will meet me at the airport. I do not have many money, and I not from a rich family. But it is not a pity to me of money for ours with you of a meeting. I have a feeling of pleasure which has appeared since first day of our acquaintance. From my life the feeling of loneliness was gone. It is pleasant to me to realise that in the World there is a person who thinks of me. I want to have from you care. I want to know that I can rely on you completely. You can care of me in your country? If I arrive to the airport and I will not see you I will receive a lot of anxiety. Not each girl will dare at flight in the unfamiliar country to the man. But I courageous!
Today I have important news. I called in the visa centre which is in city Krasnoyarsk. Now I know the information which is necessary for me for travel to your country. I should visit personally the visa centre to issue the visa. Already my vacation tomorrow will begin. And at any time I can begin preparation of documents. To me have told that I should give in the visa centre for visa reception. The international passport, 2 colour photos, the reference, the questionnaire, the filled questionnaire and the inquiry on incomes. To me set many questions by phone... Asked, whether I know English language? I have told that I know. Also me asked about duration of my travel. I had to answer many questions, but they were not difficult for me. Optimum type of the visa to me - the Tourist. The tourist visa operates throughout 180 calendar days, is called as the multivisa. The visa allows the visitor to be in the country till 90 days. When I will be in Krasnoyarsk, I will rent a room. The hotel costs much. I will need to live in Krasnoyarsk about 8 days. Also I have learnt about cost of registration of the visa (about 7000 roubles). The price include consular and service gathering. I asked about cost of air tickets, but the girl in the visa centre could not answer my question precisely. To me have told that the prices constantly change. It is connected with constantly changing exchange rate. When I will be in Krasnoyarsk, I will visit the airport to buy tickets. I have savings to spend vacation. I have received a salary. I hope that means will suffice me.
I should spend many money for registration of the visa and purchase of tickets. I will spend money for residing in Krasnoyarsk. Therefore you should assure me that will care of me! I want to have guarantees of that you can meet me at the airport! I should know that I will be in safety with you. Excuse that I ask you about it. Our meeting - the big step to our life. I listen to the heart... My heart says that together we will be the happiest. Please, tell to me your thoughts. I will wait your letter. I do not want to lose any day from my vacation. Now I will go to the boss to receive inquiries which will be necessary for me in visa reception. I miss you.
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