Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
Thanks !I have same ideas like you.
I went to Google and have found a Moneygram fake template. I enjoy scamming 'him',LOL^^)
Hello, my favorite prince UNKO! I am very pleased to receive your letter sweet.I am grateful to you for what you do not refuse to help me. Thank you for what you are doing our future a reality! Just for you, very soon we will be able to feel the warmth and beauty of our lips, I can come to you and whisper, I love you! I want to look in your deep eyes full of passion. Closing my eyes, I guess our first night together. At first, we drink a glass of wine or champagne. Then, you put in a comfortable chair and start to dance for you a lap dance striptease.I'll get the doctor costume.
I want to be your personal dentist. Are you ready to be my patient? I promise you will not do bad, but, on the contrary, I will try to give you the maximum pleasure. Then, I gently remove from your clothing, and immerse ourselves in a storm of emotions on our bed. I moan with pleasure and passion. At this point I would like to conclude my thoughts, to keep the intrigue for our personal meeting. I can no longer live without you, my prince UNKO.
Without you in my life has no meaning. We promise to do our beautiful life together. I'll be faithful to you alone. Between us and can get any barrier. The most important thing is that we have been able to build genuine relationships of trust. The fate allowed us to meet, and we did not lose this opportunity. I love you and once again
I want to thank you for what you do not leave me alone in this difficult, terrible situation. Thanks for your help. I will never forget your kindness.I can not wait your email back to me.
Your sweet Svetlana!
Do you scamming me now?
I have got a passport L.
My favorite UNKO!
I'm asking you don't worry about me. Today I have products. With me everything is in order. Thank you for caring about me. I am so grateful for all you do for the sake of our meeting has taken place. Every day more and more I miss you. I very much hope that in the near future we will be able to see each other. I constantly think about what would be our first kiss, how it will happen. All these thoughts brighten up the loneliness. In the evenings I so much want to cuddle
up to you and feel needed and desired. I want to be with you every minute of my life. Most importantly, you have me and I have with you. I couldn't imagine meeting a man with whom I will feel protected. You made me feel the most beautiful, the most beautiful woman in the world. I am grateful to God for what he gave me you! UNKO my dear, I send you a copy of my passport.
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anonymous from United States
anonymous from United States
just going through my quarantine mail and I found this
I know really that this message will come to you as a surprise but please permit me to introduce myself to you because i am seriously in need of your assistance. I am Sergeant Oswald Lewis, a security agent with the United Nations troop in Iraq, on war against ISIL. On the other hand, I want to inform you that I have in my possession the sum of $10.5 million which was recovered from one of our raids on terrorists here in Iraq because they keep most of their money at home for evil activities which they normally get through illegal deals on crude oil.
Based on the suffering we undergo here some of us do meet such luck. It happened that I went for this raid with the men in my unit and found this fund, I decided to take it as my share for my stress here in this evil land filled with suicide bombers. I registered this money as a consignment and transferred it to Europe and deposited it in security company in Europe with DIPLOMATIC COURIER SERVICE.
I want you to know that diplomats run a courier service which is called DIPLOMATIC COURIER SERVICE. This service is meant for transferring hard documents, huge funds and precious stones. They call it consignment. This consignment will be registered under service and will be carried with their diplomatic immunity to any country where they have diplomatic grounds and then deliver it to the owner of the consignment.
I told the diplomat who is a very good friend of mine with a decent mind because i gave him security assistance when he came here, that the consignment belongs to a friend of mine that travelled for a business deal and that he will contact him as soon as possible to claim the consignment when he returns. I am a uniformed person and I cannot be parading such an amount so I need to present someone to the diplomat because he did not know that the consignment belongs to me, it is 100% RISK FREE and it is under my power to approve whoever comes forth for this money to avoid demurrage in the security company.
I wish to use this money for charity purposes in Turkey, where we have about 5 million Iraqi refugees and Sudan where we have currently the highest numbers of refugees displaced as a result of war. You need to visit such places. I want to invest the money on stock fish from Norway to help this refugees because base on my experience on battle ground in this places, they lack a lot of fish and meat to add to their meager and unpalatable meals which they get in little quantity just to keep them living until God knows when the problem ends. Instead of allowing this terrorists to get the money and spend it on purchasing arms from Russia, it is better channeled to saving the world.
I cannot move this money myself owing to the nature of my job hence I will be in Iraq for about 3 years, so I need someone I could trust and your acceptance. Please if you are interested in this transaction I will give to you the complete details and the contact of the DIPLOMAT in Europe, you need it for us to carry out this transaction successfully. I decided to find someone that is real and not imaginary and that is why I went to a secure business directory where I can be sure that the person is real. I believe I can trust you. Where we are now we have only our military communication facilities which is not secured for a telephone conversation, so i prefer writing to you where nobody can monitor our emails, then I can explain in details to you.
If you are not interested do not reply to this email and please delete this message. If no response after 3 days I will then search for someone else. I am doing this on trust, you should understand that as a trained military expert I will always play safe in case you are the bad type, but I pray you are not. $10.5 million is a lot of money which is the dream of anyone. I am ready to give you 30% of the total sum and 70% will be for me. I hope I am being fair on this deal.
I await your urgent reply to this email so that we can proceed.
Thanks and God bless you and your family.
Sgt. Oswald Lewis
email@example.com from United States
and first I'm glad to meet you, and want write little about myself...I am single and not young girl Svetlana, and you know how is difficult
to start new relationships.... but I have high hopes that we will continue our dialogue! It will be very nice to find something about you, of course if you wish my dear.....
just remember any your honest answer make me happy, see you soon my cute man
anonymous from United States
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anonymous from United Kingdom
anonymous from United States
I HAVE BEEN SUCKERD 3 TIMES. THE FIRST TIME I HAD NO CLUE THAT THIS SCAM WAS GOING ON. SHE KNEW I HAD NO MONEY, SHE WAS HALF MY AGE(I LOOK 20 YEARS YOUNGER THAN MY AGE) AND FOR A FEW WEEKS ALL SEEMED TO BE LAGIT. THEN SHE ASKED ME FOR MONEY AND I SAID, I ALREADY TOLD YOU I'M TWICE YOUR AGE AND HAVE NO MONEY TO GIVE. I LIVE ON DISABLITY AND GOVERNMENT HOUSING . NEVER HEARED FROM HER AGAIN.
THE 2ND ONE I FLAT OUT SAID, PLEASE DON'T EVER ASK ME FOR MONEY AND SHE RAN SCARED.
THE LAST ONE TODAY GOT TO MOSCOW . TOLD ME SHE HAD A GRANT TO FLY TO WASHINGTON DC TO TAKE HER DENTAL CLASSES AND THE FEDRATION IS PAYING FOR HER TRAVEL, FOOD AND CLOTHING AND MONEY FOR A PLACE TO STAY THEY ALL SENT NUDE PICTUERS OF THEM SELVES AND THEY LOOKED VERY PORNOGRAPHIC AND PROFFESIONAL. SHE WAS 26 AND NOW SHE IS IN MOSCOW WANTING MONEY. SHE IS HISTORY. I TOLD HER IF ALL SHE HAS TOLD ME ABOUT HERSELF AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT SHE WILL DO WHEN ME HAVEING SEX AND HOW SHE HAS FALLEN FOR ME. I TOLD HER, YOUR ON YOUR OWN, YOU NOW I'M POOR AND CAN'T HELP YOU. IF YOU REALLY ARE THAT MUCH INTERESTED IN ME THAN YOU'LL FIND A WAY TO GET MONEY AND COME AND STAY WITH ME AND I HELP YOU FIND A PLACE TO LIVE . I'LL NEVER HEAR FROM HER AGAIN.