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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-01-31, 09:05:48
anonymous from United States  
Here is the picture she sent me.
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer greenday564@gmail.com from Tomsk, Russia
Blacklisted Emails of Russian Dating Scammers



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2007-02-01, 02:36:35
anonymous from Germany  
And another one:
'I am margarita, I am young lady of 27 years old, I live in Russia and I
really want to create a strong family. Is visiting Russia in your future plans?
Please, drop me some words to: margarita@myladiesmails.com'
2007-02-01, 05:13:44
anonymous from Netherlands  
That from Germany if you go to www.myladiesmails.com you get a dating site from Russia and that says enough
2007-02-01, 11:25:10
anonymous from United States  
Papastop, your august letter from her is almost word for word the same as the one this Yuliya person sent to me. I guess they should add her name and picture to the scammer list :)
the email she used is clickachicka@gmail.com
2007-02-02, 09:36:04   (updated: 2007-02-02, 09:41:54)
anonymous  
Hi this message is for the person that posted the scammer with the Blue Checked paints on under the following post

ok enough fun for now, hope this isn't to long, but i posted every email she sent

Emails in order;

Gratitude345 (Gratitude345@talkmatch.com)
Hello!
I liked your structure very much .
I hope that my structure pleasant to you too.
I want to learn about you more. If you
not against that , write to me on
RESIGNEDLYLADY223@YAHOO.COM
I with impatience shall wait from you of the letter.
Thanks!

All the rest are from RESIGNEDLYLADY223@YAHOO.COM

I would like for you to email me at love.you.steve@gmail.com I am talking to this one and trying to cost her as much as I can but after telling her some things that would drive the normal scammer off the planet let alone out of my life she still keep calling so email me if you see this
And No I do not need any more Pic's of her she has sent me a ton of them
2007-02-02, 11:37:07   (updated: 2007-02-02, 11:44:19)
Cecil_G_63@Yahoo.com from Chicago in Illinois, United States  
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Hello, It's me Marvin Cecil Gonzalez.

To the anonymous guy above who received the email from Yuliya from Irkutsk, Siberia.

A friend of mine received that same letter as did I.

She contacted me thru True under the user name Nelliosols.

She introduced herself as Vicktoriya Makarova from Omsk, Russia.

You need to see the following to see what you are dealing with . . .

For 411 on the entity known as:

Marina Artemieva...Tatyana Zavagina(Zvyagina)...Vicktoriya(Victoriya/Viktoriya)Makarova(Macarova)...Nella Galiullina...Olga Romanskaya(Romenskaya)...briefly Tanya Sosnina...Luliya ????....Yuliya(Yulia) Kamenschikova. . .

On this Delphifaq.com site -

See Dating Scammer greenday 564@gmail.com from Tomsk,Russia.

See Dating Scammer Vicktoriya ( Vicktoriyamakarova@gmail.com )from Russia.

And Follow the links . . .

You MUST read these pages in their entirety.

Please contact me. You will notice a number of my postings on these dedicated pages.

We have a team of friends actively involved in bleeding this monster.

She has over 40 e-dresses to go along with the 15 or so aliases.

Other places to find her . . .


Other sites with directions. . .

Russian-Detective.com > Forum > Scammers > page #'s on upper right hand corner
pg 1 = Yuliya ( Yulia ) Kamenschikova - 10th from the top.
pg 2 = Olga Romanskaya - 67th from the top.
pg 2 = Tanya Sosnina ( different scammer but briefly used the name ) - 20th from the top.

Freewebs.com/Victoriyamakarova/

Delphifaq.com > Outside the Cube > Dating Scams > see various pages. . .
- 'Is this Russian Girl Scamming Me? How to Recognize Scammers.
- 'Dating Scam From Kazan, part 5
- 'Dating Scammer Greenday564@gmail.com from Tomsk, Russia
- 'Dating Scammer Vicktoriya ( Vicktoriyamakarova@gmail.com ) from Omsk, Russia
- 'Humorous Ideas how to deal with Russian dating Scammers
- 'Elena from Slobodskoi

Russiantearoom.net > blacklist > newbies > N > page9
Under Nella Galiullina with link to Vicktoriya Makarova

Antiscam.net > anti-scam menu > 'search anti-scam' > enter Vicktoriya Makarova or Nella Galiullina.

Antiscamclub.com > scam profiles > read letter or scroll down to ...look 'here' first ( click 'here' ) > page 1 and 3 down from the top.

Anti-scam.org > Scammer's menu > click 'search' > enter scammer I.D.# in 'Search by I.D.' window > click 'o.k.'
I.D.#s are: 1877 for Vicktoriya Makarova, 1806 for Nella Galiullina, 2022 for both alias's

Scammerlist.com > page 37 > Nella Galiullina with reference to Vicktoriya Makarova.

She is black listed on three E-flower/gift shops;
Roses.ru, Russianflowershop.com, and Flowers-to-Russia.com
She sent me to Aiflowers.com, her biz buddy.

Read all the postings and comments.

Read all letters and view all pix. You will see yours with minor changes such as the names of other men ( victims), her different alias names and personal 411, a variation on letter style and content but thats all.

Thank you for posting that letter and that pic. Both have been used by her other persona's.

Please open full headers on that email before you post it.

Remember to delete all of your personal 411 in the headers before posting.

We need to see those headers.

Please contact me a.s.a.p.

Marvin Cecil Gonzalez at Cecil_G_63@Yahoo.com

If you can string her along and pump her for 411. Fact or Fiction we need it.

Soon enough you will want to know this follow information cuz I will ask this question. . .

Did you email the U.S and/or Russian Embassy in Moscow yet?

If not I strongly recommend that you do. String her along first - at least until her request for money comes.

Money does not necessarily have to change hands. She is attempting to defraud you thru false information.

She has history . . .that's enough.

In Russia, they are hesitant to act unless they have lots of complaints with documented 411.

Send them all pix as well.

There is software that will allow us to get 411 from her pix as well as trace its origins.

You can use these e-dresses to investigate and verify U.S. Visa/Passport and Immigration 411:

For U.S. Visa/Immigration: myrussianfiancee.com
moscow.usembassy.gov

For Passport Info: Immihelp.com
moscow.usembassy.gov

You will also want/need to contact these to file complaints/grievences:

To Report Internet Crime: http://www.ic3.gov
This is the Internet Crime Complaint Center of the FBI

FSB aka FSS ( Federal Security Service ). This is Russia's 'FBI':
http://www.fsb.ru/c..act.html.
Now the site is in Russian so you will use an on-line translator to write the email:
http://freetranslat..link.com.
Then just email to fsb@fsb.ru.

MVD of Russia - aka MO( Ministy of the Interior of Russia )
This is the headquarters of the Russian Police:
http://eng.mvdrf.ru/
Send your message thru 'Public Reception Center'

NOTE::: Be brief, clear, documentary proven, and straight to the point.
Use full legal name w/ completer contact 411.
Open and include full email headers that you send them from scammers.

Get the goods on her first. . .and be patient.

She contacts men from True.com, Match.com, and Singlesnet.com so far.

If you know what to look for in the headers of her email you will see that she uses a commercial mass mailing software and program. This is not possible from an internet cafe.

Anyway, please contact me . . .

Your fellow victim and friend - Marvin.

2007-02-02, 13:01:27
anonymous from United States  

Hello Phil!!!! I do like yours photo.I am so happy to see that you have
decided to reply,I see
that you are astonished to get my letter. I want you to know that I
have only good intentions and I have not any secrets.Excuse, for a
small delay of the answer. Yes I know, that my profile is spoken that
by I from USA, but I did not have other choice for creation of a
profile. Now I shall explain all to you, the manager the internet of
cafe at once has warned me, that because of often deceits on the
internet many sites of acquaintances do not suppose creation of a
profile from Russia. I hope, that you of me will understand and for us
it does not become a problem. Ok?Possible, you can ask me, why I
didn't find a russian man? I will be very serious, I will answer to
you, that I had a boyfriend from Russia from my city, I loved him very
much, but he has thrown me in last time. He found an other girl, as I
have understood. I have decided to search for the husband abroad
Russia as I want have strong happy family. In Russia men want only sex
and creation of family for them on last place. They are afraid of it
because they not trust in the happy future and are not sure in
tomorrow's day. I think that I only spend the time in Russia, I not so
young woman and would be desirable me of a constancy, love and simple
female happiness. I think that I have deserved it. You probably are
surprised that I have chosen you. I read yours profile and I see that
you too lonely and want the same as I. You too want find the half in a
life and it has involved me in you and has interested. I know that men
of the West think of family and about the future. I have decided to
take advantage of the Internet and to find here the happiness and
love. I heard on the TV that the Internet helps people and I have
decided to try to make it and I have written to you. I hope that we
with you correspondence will grow in serious relations.I am
non-drinking and non-smoking girl. Simply, I don't have a harmful
habits! I can speak and write English language. let me to tell to you
about me more. I'm 29 years old.I 5 foot and 7 inch. I weight 125
lbs.I am blonde and i have green eyes. I was born on June, 20. when
you was born? What's an exact date of your Happy Birthday? Tell me,
ok? I'm White Russian girl on nationality. On religion, I'm Christian(
Russian Ortodox), and I believe in God Jesus. I was MARRIED,but I have
been divorced 2 years ago AND I DON'T HAVE A KIDS. I'm a sensitive, a
kind-hearted, a thoughtful and easily amused. Probably, I'll finish my
e-mail to you. I'll be grateful so much, if you'll write me about
yourself so much, as I did it. I would like, if you'll tell me, for
example, about your city where are you living, about the weather, is
there a hot summer? I have never been in abroad, and I'll be glad to
know about your country. Ok, let me to finish my e-mail, I hope to see
your answer soon!I write to you more about myself in the following
letter. I hope that you'll like to look on my photo. Ok,good bye,
hoping to see your message soon! Sincerely, Your friend from Russia,
Angelika.You may call me simply Angela. opps I forget to tell, that I
live in city NIZHNY NOVGOROD in central a part Russia,near river
Volga.
This girl is a spamer!
2007-02-06, 01:41:41
anonymous from United States  
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New scammer,saw her picture on top new scammers.,Beware?


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2007-02-06, 06:32:49
anonymous from United States  
Ok fellas this is one that has been in and out of the scamming thing Here are all the pics that I have and she goes by Natalya from Russia, email address is blnd777@yahoo.com. She is a hot one but asked for 440.00 dollars to get a visa and EVERYBODY SHOULD BE AWARE THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE RUSSIA UNLESS AN AMERICAN VISITS THEM OR SHE ALREADY HAS BEEN TO THE STATES OR MARRIED AN AMERICAN. THIS IS TRUE FOR ALL RUSSIANS. BUT HAD FUN WITH IT AND SHE IS HOT HOT HOT


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2007-02-06, 06:36:39
anonymous from United States  



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2007-02-06, 06:37:22
anonymous from United States  



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2007-02-06, 07:13:51   (updated: 2007-02-06, 08:05:51)
anonymous  
Does anyone know this girl ? She goes by the name Ekaterina. You can you Kate to adress her. She comes from a little town called Zvenigovo. Is she a scammer or not ? It is very important to me. please someone, let me know A.S.A.P.

Thanks


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2007-02-07, 12:55:58
anonymous from United States  
Nice looking young woman who was interested in only money when a whole life change was available... what's with these women? Don't they know they're selling out cheap?
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Dating scammer Irina Gennadevna Popova from Angarsk, Russia
Dating scammer Natalja Kovaleva from Mogocha near Chita in Russia



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2007-02-07, 18:52:29
anonymous from United States  
Anybody know this woman?


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2007-02-08, 11:21:54
ronnyisalone@hotmail.com from Netherlands  
Does anyone know this girl ? She goes by the name Ekaterina. You can you Kate to adress her. She comes from a little town called Zvenigovo. Is she a scammer or not ? It is very important to me. please someone, let me know A.S.A.P.

If she ash for money to travel to you she ia a scammer, if she ask for money for here sick uncle/aunt mother/father she is a scammer.
Believe me they can not leave Russia without a invatation.
If you want more good advice send a mail to my mailadress and I will help you
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