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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-03-04, 10:22:55
anonymous from United States  
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2007-03-04, 15:27:31   (updated: 2007-03-04, 15:39:27)
anonymous from United States  
katerina-gradovskaya@rambler.ru

She is a real pro and she is still working out there under one more address. Katerina had written me forabout 2 months before begining to ask for the money. Be careful around this one!!!!!


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2007-03-04, 15:41:40
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2007-03-04, 15:44:14
anonymous from United States  
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2007-03-04, 15:52:50
anonymous from United States  
Katerina-Gradovskaya
Is working 27/7/365 in order, to take your money so, if you are wise beware of this one!!!


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2007-03-04, 15:55:21
anonymous from United States  
katerina-gradovskaya@rambler.ru
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Dating scammer Katerina from Russia



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2007-03-04, 15:59:22
anonymous from Oakland in California, United States  
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I was approached by this woman who I found here. LOL I thought it was Too Good To Be True! She goes by Olesia [mailto:oceanpearl313@yahoo.com] and oceanpearl.

Thanks to all who posted here
2007-03-04, 15:59:59
anonymous from United States  
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2007-03-04, 16:03:41
anonymous from United States  
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2007-03-04, 16:07:58
anonymous from United States  
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2007-03-05, 03:02:09
anonymous from Canada  
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here you all go....
i have not seen this girl posted here but there are soooo many that i got bored and decided to show you her anyways. ( she's on other websites)
beware.....the singing of the beautiful woman as they lure you into the cave for an unloving surprise.....
also, 4 those who like to play along....tie yourself to the mast and listen as you safley pass by lol here are some pics and hope u like them


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2007-03-06, 09:03:06
anonymous from United States  
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One more - her name is Liubow.
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Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia



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2007-03-06, 16:25:31
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Beware of this most dangerous gold-digger from Kharkov, Ukraine! Her name is Alesya, about 18 y.o. and I met her back in September 2006 when I was there. The first 18 days in Sept 2006, I was there we met 8 times total. She ended up taking me to the big market there several times asking me to buy this and that for, which unfortunately I did to a tune of about $150 plus. I realized she was just trying to milk me without feeding the cow anything, other than a few kisses, and I then came back in Oct, and she met me only 5 times in 21 days. Then I tested her by telling her I wanted to spend some money on her. She jumped at this chance and we went to the big market and found her a $140 coat, and I opened my wallet only to find only a couple of bucks. She asked what happened and I said my money is not here...right cause I took it out. So I said maybe it got stolen. She had originally earlier written her name, passport number and address in my address book, but the next day when we met and I was going to show her the money, before I got to, she wanted to see something about her address and then she ripped out the pages which were for sure her correct data. She then entered a bogus address, which I late checked out to be just that-bogus. She assumed I didn't have any money, which I actually did, and while I looked for about 15 seconds at my vandalized address book, she slipped off and vanished into the market not to be seen there again. This woman is MOST DANGEROUS!!! If you are in Kharkov, Ukraine do NOT associate with this gold-digger!!!
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2007-03-06, 16:31:11
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Another photo of the MOST DANGEROUS gold-digger Alesya from Kharkov, Ukraine. Avoid her, unless you want to be fleeced!!!
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Dating scam from Kazan, Russia - Part 1



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