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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-03-07, 04:49:07
anonymous from Norway  
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HI ALL.

ANYBODY KNOW KSENYIA FROM VOLGA?
MAILADRESS:kseniyazamyslova@gmail.com
26 YEARS AND I MET HER ON HOLOSTYAK.

THANKS

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2007-03-07, 11:35:06
anonymous from Kenley in Bromley, United Kingdom  
any more info on julia with the long dark hair under the internet sign dated 2nd of feb 2007..also does anybody have any info on a website named elenas models..is it legit or is it full of scammers...regards from bowlegs billy
2007-03-09, 02:26:50
anonymous from Australia  
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glad i found this site.... the people here are obviously genuine unlike some, .... all i can say is i'm now wiser reading what you all have to say and just tightened up my thoughts...the russian girl i am in correspondance with has not asked me for money.....YET. So we will see thankyou for wising me up a little on the subject seems like it happens a bit.


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2007-03-09, 07:52:50
anonymous from United States  
A girl named olga and i have been writing letters for quite some time she has sent me a copy of a tourist visa and i was wondering if i buy airline ticket here and send her a copy can she fly from the ukraine is this a scam the ticket would be paid for here by me.And i would send a copy to her so she could use info to fly she has given me her address .Also what can she do with the ticket that i pay for they would be non refundable.?
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2007-03-09, 10:38:55
anonymous from United States  
I am amazed at all the guys out there who still have to ASK if they're being scammed! The girl lives in Russia; if she's telling you she is coming here......it's a scam. If she's calling you 'honey' or other terms of endearment, and she talks about the feelings she has for you after only a few emails......it's a scam. If she contacts you first.......it's a scam. Women who actually look like this can barely keep up with emails from men who've contacted them; they are not going 'out there' to look for someone. And lastly, if she asks for MONEY....guess what?......it's a scam!! Guys....quit wasting your time on women that you'll never meet and if you belong to an online dating site, do a search in a city close to you. There are plenty of wonderful, caring, and honest women in this country who are looking for an nice guy. Of course, they may not look like a model with a big chest, but guess what.....the women you're wasting time, and possibly money on aren't real! Get over yourself. Jeesh!!
2007-03-09, 14:57:22
anonymous from United States  


From : Kristina <4tunebox@gmail.com>
Reply-To : Kristina <4tunebox@gmail.com>
Sent : Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:28 PM
To : michael oneill <lookingforencounters@hotmail.com>
Subject : from true.com

| | | Kristina | Inbox

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Hello,I am glad to get your responce this evening.
First of all i would know if you want to correspond with woman which is far
away from you ? I ask this question because we are thousand miles away from each
other.
Well,let me introduce myself.
My name is Kristina,
I am 28 years old and i was born July 25,
Am i too youth for you ? :) I live in Russia,not usa.There was no
opportunity to indicate it on true.com because registration of profile
could not went throw.
The name of city where I live is Chita,Siberia.
Which is two days by train from Moscow,What can i tell you
about my city...? well,it is nice,but i prefer continue about myself :)
i work as a dentist in dental clinic and i love my work,
I own two rooms apartment with beautiful kitchen.What is about your place ?
My exhusband left me without computer and other expensive stuff,
by this way i am writing from internet center now.
I have no kids because when i was married my ex-husband had no luck giving
them to me,he was not able to produce kids,but i am able.I was not scared,i
tryed
to find the solution for this problem and to get kid from goverment(small kid,
who had no parents),but i received no agreement from my ex-husband.
We married in 1995 and divorced one year ago.
From that moment i got thousands of admires,the most from his friends,
but no one interested me enough as correspond with two man tryed to write to me
last week throw internet.Could you truly answer
one question for me : is every one looking for image whith naked woman first ?
i hope no,but it seems like true.
I am looking for seriouse relations and
meeting in person,so if you do not see it could be possible,
let me know and we will not waist each other's time,
i need to find a good man who is able to take care of me,
so i ask you to think about this subject and write me back
only if you are really interested,i do not play any games and
i am very serious about relations.
I love pet's, I have doggy(dalmatin)
and kitten. do you like pet's ???
I have one brother,he is cook on the ship
and travel all the time.Tell me more about your family,about your job and other
things could be interested to me.Feel free asking questions,i am open
woman and have nothing to hide.I enjoy traveling,do you ? i have been to
Turkey,Cyprus,Spain,Italy And France.I Have never been to US.Is there any
place in the world you would like to visit ? what is your favourite season ?
i like summer the most.May be someday i could travel
to Australia,unique par of Earth as i have seen on tv :)
Well,if you are interested talking to crazy woman after reading above
my door is open for your key,if not-i wish you the best of luck,
do not forget to think about relaions with woman from an other
country and if it is really what you are interested in.
i hope to find good man and i belive in destiny.
I will come here to check emailbox the day after tomorrow.



Kristina














| | | | | Kristina | Inbox

this is the very first letter i received from this scammer.
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2007-03-10, 01:55:34
anonymous from Belgium  
Do somebody know her ? Email : Valentinasun@yandex.ru and Valentinasun@hotmail.com

She send me a email...

Hello dear St├ęphane!!!!! I am very glad that you have answered me. I
liked yours On this site and I have decided to write a structure to
you. I search for persons with which I might To lead all life. My
intentions very serious. I live in Russia in city of Sernur. It is
very beautiful and little city. Here it is a lot of sights, Because it
is very old city.To tell the truth I already have despaired to search
for my present love, my prince here, And I have decided to try to
search in Internet. I shall tell to you about myself. My growth of 168
centimeters, weight of 55 kgs. To me of 29 years. I was never married.
I have education of the cook And higher education on a speciality
economy and marketing. But in the present Time I work as the cook in a
dining room. I have no children.At me very beautiful eyes, I think
that you will estimate My sight on a photo. On the past, that I work
as the cook some part a free time I, I give this, I help small
children to stay without parents. In my city there is a children's
home in which at present lives 127 children from unsuccessful families
and those at whom are not present relatives. I very much love children
and consequently I indifferently can not look at how children 5 - 12
years wander on streets, starve. Therefore receiving I all ways try to
save the small salary to direct some money for the benefit of
children's home. And how you treat to charity and various charitable
actions?????? And on days off at leisure I go to children's home to
give though a little heat and care to children that they felt that
they are not lonely in this severe world. I understand, that my
efforts are incomparably small with that quantity of children
requiring in parent caress. Unfortunately in our country children's
homes are badly financed. Therefore kind people which have still
remained presently try to help homeless children. But the quantity of
such people every day decreases and all the same I hope, that my
efforts are reasonably useful. Such sad position at us in city and as
a whole practically in all country except for large cities in which
money are allocated in enough. I probably have tired you this history.
Will suffice about sad. I like to go in for sports. I frequently go to
a training hall and in fitnes club I Like to hold Itself in the form.
I do not smoke and I do not drink alcohol. I think that it is a pledge
of youth, Beauty and health.I think that you with me will agree. I
hope that my photos will like you. I ask you to send me your photos.I
think that appearance not the most important. On mine the main thing
in the person his soul And his private world, but me is very
interesting to see yours Photo. I live with mum. I have told her, that
today to me the letter from the person has come from other country.
She has told that it well, but it is impossible to trust at once. We
should understand the friend It is better than the friend. We should
pass a long way that in the end we shall understand together whether
or not. But I think that we shall well.I shall help you to study about
me. I well talk in English.At me the good teacher was and I was the
provisional schoolgirl, And the knowledge of English remained at me
from school. I think that you can understand all my letters. If
something to you will not be clear, Tell me about it. Your letters
will help me to teach your language better. I have no the domestic
computer, because it very much Dearly for me. I shall write to you
from the Internet of the centre. I shall tell to you about the city. I
in it was born and have grown Sernur and It is located about the river
Volga and Kama. It is very old city. I to love the city. To me to like
to walk on its streets to attend museums. At us in City there are many
theatres, museums, houses of culture. We with girlfriends frequently
visit cinemas and we look various films. It is more In total I to like
when to come spring. On streets water flows and kids let The paper
ships, sing birds, the sun shines and heats. The nature anew is born
also I I feel that new life begins. My girlfriend has advised me To
look his only thing in Internet. I did not expect that you will answer
me. I thought that it simply a joke. I hope that we with you well
learn each other Also the computer may, it is simply impossible, will
help us to find each other. I want to know more concerning you. Tell
to me about your habits, Friends. Tell to me where you live. What you
like to eat? I ask it because I very well am going. Write to me all
about itself, Ok? Do not hesitate to ask, I shall try to answer all
your questions. I shall wait for your answer. Your friend Valentina
from Russia.


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2007-03-10, 06:09:22
[hidden]  
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.




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2007-03-10, 06:14:21
[hidden]  
2
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
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2007-03-10, 06:16:55
anonymous from Kuwait  
3
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info

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2007-03-10, 06:17:25
[hidden]  
3
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info

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2007-03-10, 06:20:47   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:20:36)
[hidden]  
Picture 4
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
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2007-03-10, 06:23:41
[hidden]  
5
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
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2007-03-10, 06:28:58   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:28:45)
[hidden]  
Picture 6
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
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Dating scammer Yulija



Keywords: blonde belt topless beach ocean
2007-03-10, 06:31:25   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:23:08)
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Picture 7
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
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Dating scammer Yulija



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