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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-03-10, 06:34:36   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:14:52)
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Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
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Dating scammer Yulija (modified photo)



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2007-03-10, 06:37:56   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:12:35)
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Picture 9
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Yulija



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2007-03-10, 06:40:25   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:10:01)
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Picture 10
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.


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2007-03-10, 06:43:00   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:07:10)
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Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.


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2007-03-10, 06:45:25   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:03:20)
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Picture 12
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.


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2007-03-10, 06:49:56
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Picture 13
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.

This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Yulija



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2007-03-10, 06:55:44
anonymous from Canada  
Hello my sweet heart!!!!

I do not have telephone unfortunately. It is very expensive for my
family. I will call you very soon from station of telephone
conversations.I think you understand me! I was very glad to receive
from you the letter today. I am always glad to your letters mine
prince.. They always lift my mood. For me was the big happiness to
meet such person as you my sweet. You became my ideal my star of
captivating happiness. And I am glad that it you have taken a place in
my big and hot female heart. Love mine I can not be without you for me
it more begins torture. I want to be near to you want to feel your
gentle touches and kisses. Want to hear from you gentle words of love.
Dear I want to prepare for our meeting. What you think of it my sweet
prince? I think we have learned each other already enough and it is
time to us To pass to the following stage of our relations. I think
that we may learn about each other more if we shall lead any time
together my lovely. My love to you is very strong and serious I not so
small girl to play games. I very much want to meet you my prince. And
I hope that our desires coincide. My love you want to meet me at you
houses????? On it I shall finish this letter. I wait for your fast
reply my loved. I send you a gentle kiss and strong embraces.

With all love your sweet Marisha!!!!!!








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2007-03-10, 06:58:32
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Photo copy of her Passport
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
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2007-03-10, 07:00:22
anonymous from Canada  
i have marisha also, lol, she did called me once, it was very nice, it's been over a month and she did not ask me for money or anything...yet, but i am still playing, i guess i am bored lol, but no way i am sending anything, anyone else get's e-mails from her? she has profiles on person.com and her profiles on canadian sites have been deleted, she has changed e-mail adress twice but kept on giving them to me


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2007-03-10, 07:18:06   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:34:23)
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Picture 3
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
This image was also posted here:
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer ZHANNA
Dating scammer Yulija



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2007-03-10, 07:25:17   (updated: 2007-03-10, 07:37:55)
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Picture 5
Name : Liubow Novitskaja
Email : feature1@siberiamail.info # dbridgette00@mefindhome.info
She asked for $600 Dollars for airfare to come and see me after 5 Emails.
Sent 13 pictures and a photocopy of her passport.
This image was also posted here:
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer Yulija



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2007-03-11, 00:21:23
anonymous from United States  
SHE GOES BY YULIA PROZHERINA SWILMY88@YAHOO LOOK FAMILIAR GOT SAME EXACT LETTER AS ON ABOVE FROM YULIA SWILLY77@YAHOO


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2007-03-11, 15:44:53
anonymous from United States  
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My friend is getting scammed I believe. I do not have much information but this is what I do know:
The Russian woman 'dentist' already promised him twice she is on her way to the airport and did not show up. I think she is continuing the scam because as much as he is hooked he has not sent money. Can she even get a tourist visa to the US?
She told him she did not show up the first time because she was going to surprise him and bring him some military memorabilia and got arrested at the Moscow airport because it was illegal to take it out of Russia. Now she was going to come again and didn't show up but left him a short phone message that they need to talk.
I think she is just continuing to pull his chain hoping that as he gets desperate to meet her he will cough up some money for whatever her latest story will be.
Anyone seen something similar?
2007-03-11, 17:05:48
tonyboffa@optusnet.com.au from Melbourne in Victoria, Australia  
to the norwegian guy, yes she has emailed me...shes a well known scammer Ksenyia

heres her letter



-----Original Message-----
From: Kseniya [mailto:kseniyazamyslova@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2007 2:35 AM
To: tony boffa
Subject: Hello, Tony. How are you doing? It is Kseniya.


Hello, Tony. How are you doing? It is Kseniya. I was glad to receive the answer
From you, Tony. I so am glad, that you have written to me,Tony! Our dialogue
should proceed now that we could learn each other better. I will try to tell
about myself I'll try to tell about myself a lot. I'm 26 years old, 171 (5 ' 7
') height and 55 kg weight. I have a harmonous figure, the blue eyes similar to
color of the heavenly arch, blonde hair. You can see it in my photos. I work as
the teacher for children of younger age I teach reading drawing physical culture
the letter and other subjects.As to my life I live with my brother and the daddy
in city Naberezhnye Chelny. It is not so far from Moscow - capitals of Russia,
as is in the European part of the country. I live, and I work here. My life here
had the sizes.Also, I hope, that my e-mail was not unexpectedness for you,
whether not so? You probably interests why I search for the man of my life
abroad, instead of my country. I gave the structure in internet with I not to
want to concern with the man from Russia, which they not to respect the woman
and not to know as let's him evade. I concerned the person from Russia then he
has deceived me, and I heard that he has other girl. I am significant suffering,
but subsequently all is good. Most of all in a life I do not love treachery of
the favourite person. Probably it that I had in the last trouble with it. A
question - which I loved one man in the past, but he has deceived my dreams. And
when I have learned about it, could not arrive in myself very long time. After
that I for a long time could not trust men. I have told to you about this case
because I want to trust you to all secrets, and I hope, that you will not have
secrets from me, you see only so we can be very good friends who have no secrets
from each other. I would characterize style of my life according to one offer: '
do not wish the person whom you do not wish yourselves.. ' Such value of a life
to me very much to similar, and I would like, that all people on a planet lived
precisely as. I have passed to inform you, that I never was for the husband, and
that I never had children. I hope, that you understand, my letters because I am
not absolutely well capable to write in English though I completely understand
it, and I can speak. To speak, in English, I have learned at school then I
studied at university, and I had the highest estimations. I always very well
wanted to speak English. I very good and sympathizing. Inform me, that you
think, about all it. I think, for the first letter it will be enough information
on me. If you want to learn more about me you can write to me on mine e-mail. I
have written the first letter to you not simply so, I have written it because
you very much loved me as the person. I want, learn about you in the greatest
possible degree, and directly I shall tell to you about me directly. Also I
think that our friendship will not lose sense, and becomes stronger every day.
It would be desirable to see your letter shortly To be cautious. Kseniya

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2007-03-11, 18:26:20
anonymous from United States  
I look at the girls and wonder who they really are and if they even know their pics are being used. I agree they are probably prostitutes or girls that posed for second rate sex mags in Russia.
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