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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-03-11, 22:37:50
anonymous  
Hi everyone,

I got a few and I would like to share with you all. I am not very good with computer. I only know the basic. How do you attach the letters for all those lovely Russian and Ukrainain ladies who desire nothing but 'love, trust and fidelity'? Sorry. I almost choked when I wrote those few expressions.
2007-03-12, 14:41:11
SHOGUN6969@GMAIL.COM from Venezuela  
Hello my dear HENRY!! :)
I am so glad to see your letter again,I think I am a lucky girl to meet such man and I will do my best to meet you in real life!
you know I can work in any city of your area because it is free choice and agency only helps me to get
only travel documents (work visa)and ticket, and I do hope that we will like each other and now I have the destination.
The agency will also suggest some places to work in. I do hope I have met my right man!you know I have told you before one
of my friend worked abroad last year and have met right man,now they live there and they are going to
marry. by the way now they are arranging the trip to Russia,(he wants to meet her parents and friends)
I think if I feel that you are my dream and you have the same feelings we could think about our future together.
if not I will just work and return back when the time to travel back. you know I am new here and I am afraid to make any mistake.
I have one great lack,I am very impatient sometimes I can act without thinking.
Sometimes I think that my dream is getting for real and it is so bad to be disappointed later.
I want you to know all small things about me because it shouldn't be any misunderstandings between us.
I want you to know that I am not angel and sometimes I can show my character.And I don't wait that you to be angel too, I just want to meet a kind man .
I am very kind and I can forgive almost all I can't forgive if my man sleep with different woman, I don't know many nessesary words in english.
I hope you can read between lines. A little more about myself!
my favorite activity is fitness. I wanted to be as fitness trainer but
I finished The Abakan State Univercity, trainers faculty as fitness
trainer but I don't work on my profession because there are no good fintess clubs in my city,
I used to sit at home and to do all housework,helping my mom. I would like to have good job,
I may work dancing teacher, or trainer of fitness,you know I have a certificate. I worked as a trainer a year ago .
and I would like to do it again .you know how many more younger girls want to get this job too!Alot of competition here. I want to tell you about things I like:
I like to make barbecue and I so much want to have my own home with fireplace.
usually I make very tasty ones and in principle I like to cook and it is not problem for me to cook something tasty and I don't like to visit cafes and restaurants,
at first usually they can't cook weel(maybe only here) and second too high price.
I like warm weather. and my great dream is to live somewhere on tropical island. Also I want to tell you about my dislikes:
I hate our long winters it seems to me they will never end. I hate lies and unfaithfulness.
I hate evil people and politicans I think they like to play wars, I hate any ars.
What I like in a man: faithfulness, honesty. He has to be open- minded and open-hearted, also easy-going. and much more important he is kind,kindness makes our world!
Are you kind and gentle man ?????
I think my man should be kind ,it is great feeling after love,only kind person may be happy, all rude people are unhappy.
or must be. A few questions yet, agency tells that I will have a room in nearest hotel near my future
work but if we like each other may be is it possible to live together?I think we will enjoy life together. do you have your car?animals? I
can't drive and I do hope you give me a few lessons, to be fair I have so many plans .I will find out all travel details
about my flight this week. I will leave my town today in a two hours and i think I will be not able to write to you today or so.
When I am in Moscow I will send you short letter to let you know that I am all right and they tell that it takes about two days to
get all nesseary papers, please confirm your phone number and international airport, I want to be sure I have all your details and
Please don't look at different girls. I am the best(joke). Well, I will close this letter I think I am bore today,and please feel
free to ask. See you soon!I can't believe everything is for real. to be fair I am lost and my head is like any big station with a lot of voice!
KISS and LOVE Yuliya!


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2007-03-12, 14:41:25
SHOGUN6969@GMAIL.COM from Venezuela  
Hello my dear HENRY!! :)
I am so glad to see your letter again,I think I am a lucky girl to meet such man and I will do my best to meet you in real life!
you know I can work in any city of your area because it is free choice and agency only helps me to get
only travel documents (work visa)and ticket, and I do hope that we will like each other and now I have the destination.
The agency will also suggest some places to work in. I do hope I have met my right man!you know I have told you before one
of my friend worked abroad last year and have met right man,now they live there and they are going to
marry. by the way now they are arranging the trip to Russia,(he wants to meet her parents and friends)
I think if I feel that you are my dream and you have the same feelings we could think about our future together.
if not I will just work and return back when the time to travel back. you know I am new here and I am afraid to make any mistake.
I have one great lack,I am very impatient sometimes I can act without thinking.
Sometimes I think that my dream is getting for real and it is so bad to be disappointed later.
I want you to know all small things about me because it shouldn't be any misunderstandings between us.
I want you to know that I am not angel and sometimes I can show my character.And I don't wait that you to be angel too, I just want to meet a kind man .
I am very kind and I can forgive almost all I can't forgive if my man sleep with different woman, I don't know many nessesary words in english.
I hope you can read between lines. A little more about myself!
my favorite activity is fitness. I wanted to be as fitness trainer but
I finished The Abakan State Univercity, trainers faculty as fitness
trainer but I don't work on my profession because there are no good fintess clubs in my city,
I used to sit at home and to do all housework,helping my mom. I would like to have good job,
I may work dancing teacher, or trainer of fitness,you know I have a certificate. I worked as a trainer a year ago .
and I would like to do it again .you know how many more younger girls want to get this job too!Alot of competition here. I want to tell you about things I like:
I like to make barbecue and I so much want to have my own home with fireplace.
usually I make very tasty ones and in principle I like to cook and it is not problem for me to cook something tasty and I don't like to visit cafes and restaurants,
at first usually they can't cook weel(maybe only here) and second too high price.
I like warm weather. and my great dream is to live somewhere on tropical island. Also I want to tell you about my dislikes:
I hate our long winters it seems to me they will never end. I hate lies and unfaithfulness.
I hate evil people and politicans I think they like to play wars, I hate any ars.
What I like in a man: faithfulness, honesty. He has to be open- minded and open-hearted, also easy-going. and much more important he is kind,kindness makes our world!
Are you kind and gentle man ?????
I think my man should be kind ,it is great feeling after love,only kind person may be happy, all rude people are unhappy.
or must be. A few questions yet, agency tells that I will have a room in nearest hotel near my future
work but if we like each other may be is it possible to live together?I think we will enjoy life together. do you have your car?animals? I
can't drive and I do hope you give me a few lessons, to be fair I have so many plans .I will find out all travel details
about my flight this week. I will leave my town today in a two hours and i think I will be not able to write to you today or so.
When I am in Moscow I will send you short letter to let you know that I am all right and they tell that it takes about two days to
get all nesseary papers, please confirm your phone number and international airport, I want to be sure I have all your details and
Please don't look at different girls. I am the best(joke). Well, I will close this letter I think I am bore today,and please feel
free to ask. See you soon!I can't believe everything is for real. to be fair I am lost and my head is like any big station with a lot of voice!
KISS and LOVE Yuliya!


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2007-03-13, 07:32:51
anonymous from Canada  
Any similar letter out there?

Hello my new friend.
I am glad that you have answered my letter.
I read your structure, therefore I know a little about you.
But I hope you will tell about myself more.
Am I right?
Well, I want tell you about itself.
I the usual Russian women, actually am not distinguished by anything from
others.
To me of 27 years, my height is 5 ' 4 and my weight is 120 lbs.
I live in Cheboksary. It is very beautiful city!
especially here in well spring and in the summer when all blossoms. Soon come
spring.
At this time the nature anew is born, and I feel, that new life begins.
I was never married. On education I the manager. I have higher education.
I work as the seller the adviser in shop now. I have no children, but I hope,
that they at me to appear in the future.
I have beautiful eyes, you can see them on a photo which I send to you:-)) I
like to go in for sports,
I do not smoke and I do not drink alcohol, I hope you like it. It will be
pleasant to me,
if you will send me your photos. I think, that appearance not the most
important,
but it is very interesting to me.
I live with mum. And today when I shall come home I will say my mum about you.
I will help you learn me, and certainly to want find out about you as much as
possible.
I well speak on english, but I write is not so well.
I think that your letters help me teach better english language and to
understand you.
I have no domestic computer, because it very much expensive for me.
I shall write to you from the internet cafe.
My girlfriend has advised me to use internet. I did not expect, that you will
answer me.
Tell me about you the habits, hobbies.
where you live? What do you like?...
I shall wait your reply.
Your new friend from Russia.
Olga


I have a picture that came along with the letter...
2007-03-13, 17:24:55
[hidden] from United States  
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Her name is Olga she sent me copy of her visa and wants to come to the usa i will not send money she said that she is saving money to come here from the Ukraine she said she lives in rovno.Is this for real or just a scam.
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2007-03-14, 00:07:06
anonymous  
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hey everyone,
i was corresponding with this russian named elena malygina,she is a scamming bitch full stop.what she did was send me letters,then said she wants to visit me in my country,she said she had just been to europe at the start of the year and said she had passport and visa and even had the cash for the plane ticket and everything.i said come on over.i went to the airport to pick her up,waited 3 hours,(for nothing),went to see customs and then the company who she said she was flying with and they told me she wasnt on that plane(hell she didnt even leave russia.then i get home to find an email saying she has been arrested at the airport for trying to take a valuble painting out of the country.she then said the penalty was 5000 euros,straight away i knew it was a scam like all my family and friends were trying to tell me.THESE WOMAN CANNOT LEAVE RUSSIA FULL STOP,YOU MUST GO THERE,MARRY ONE AND THEN THEY CAN LEAVE ON A BRIDGING VISA.dont be scammed by her or any other snake.i always had in the back of my mind it is a scam,but refused to believe it.GUYS DONT GET SCAMMED,IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT FUCKING WELL IS.im one of the lucky ones.life isnt so bad guys where you need to get some bitch from overseas.im an attractive,good natured guy,as probably many of you are.it is the way they single you out and then send these letters and pictures that get you.I WOULD HAVE NEVER DREAMED OF CHASING A FUCKING RUSSIAN WOMAN AT ALL,FUCK THAT WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN MY OWN COUNTRY.anyway fellas just stop and think that life aint so bad and will be a nightmare if you get scammed.be happy with what you have even if you cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel,have faith in yourself and eventually she (not russian) will come along and knock your socks off.TRUST ME AND YOURSELVES,it will happen.thanks and good luck in life
2007-03-14, 00:43:18
anonymous from United States  
TATYANA,NADIA NOW ALISA THANX TO WHO EVER CAME UP WITH THIS SITE THIS IS THE FORTH GIRL I POSTED THAT I FOUND ON HERE MORE THAN ONCE


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2007-03-14, 11:25:44
anonymous from United States  
It is definitely not impossible for a Ukranian, or Russian, or Moldovan, or woman from any other former Soviet nation to get into the U.S. without a K-1. The state department holds lotteries in almost all of these countries offering green cards to about 50,000 people who enter the lotteries and win. Also, you can also still get into the U.S. by stating that you are Jewish. I live in Brighton Beach Brooklyn, and know many people (young women among them) who have gained entry into the U.S. this way. you will also see registration sites (albeit in Russian) on the web announcing these sweepstakes and containing entry forms on the web. This doesn't mean there aren't scammers out there, but it does mean that maybe not every woman in CIS countries is lying.
2007-03-15, 08:33:34
anonymous  
I also got Kseniya <kseniyazamyslova@gmail.com same letter but this time she says she is in Volzhsk
Hello, *****. How are you doing? It is Kseniya. I was glad to receive the answer From you, Noel. I so am glad, that you have written to me,Noel! Our dialogue should proceed now that we could learn each other better. I will try to tell about myself I'll try to
tell about myself a lot. I'm 26 years old, 171 (5 ' 7 ') height and 55 kg weight. I have a harmonous figure, the blue eyes similar to color of the heavenly arch, blonde hair. You can see it in my photos. I work as the teacher for children of younger age I teach reading drawing physical culture the letter and other subjects.As to my life I live with my brother and the daddy in city Volzhsk. It is not so far from Moscow - capitals of Russia, as is in the European part of the country. I live, and I work here. My life here had the sizes.....................................etc.
2007-03-16, 00:26:24   (updated: 2007-03-16, 00:30:18)
anonymous from Mexico  
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2007-03-16, 00:31:15
anonymous from Mexico  
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2007-03-16, 01:20:58
anonymous from Mexico  
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Just as many of you, I was victim of a fraud through a called swindler “Liliya Zholobova (ocharovashka123@list.ru)”, of course, who is not her true name, already indeed in this page I find her photo but using another name and in another city, annexed photos of her so that it spreads and others does not fall in the trap.

In this page I locate following the information, but we are speaking of the same person.
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2007-03-16, 02:00:17
anonymous from Mexico  
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Just as many of you, I was victim of a fraud through a called swindler “Liliya Zholobova (ocharovashka123@list.ru)”, of course, who is not her true name, already indeed in this page I find her photo but using another name and in another city, annexed photos of her so that it spreads and others does not fall in the trap.

In this page I locate following the information, but we are speaking of the same person.



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2007-03-16, 07:05:38
anonymous from United Kingdom  

Hello to the poster above!

I was in contact with her also, going under the name of Nastya (Anastasiya).

She got her yahoo email account disabled due to her scamming activities!!

Were you recently in contact with her? She did not get as far as asking for money but it was not far off!

Her letters and photos are on this site on this page (half-way down):

http://www.delphifa..397.shtml

Cheers

Dom
2007-03-17, 21:44:30
anonymous from Canada  
i dont know if she is a scam...did ask for money...did anybody have seen her?


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