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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-06-06, 17:58:47
anonymous from El Salvador  
HOLA ELENA SOY JUAN CARLOS TIENES MI CORREO ELECTRONICO
ESCRIBEME PRONTO

QUISIERA TENER UNA OPORTUNIDADE DE HABLAR CONTIGO

ESPERO TU RESPUESTA.

JUAN CARLOS ES MI NOMBRE
2007-06-06, 18:04:58
anonymous from United States  
Look's British as far as I can tell BUT,the wheel's on the wrong side.
2007-06-07, 04:39:15
anonymous from United States  
Oh man, I am so glad to have stumbled across this ..thank God for google!
I see 'Olga' has been busy ..man she's good too. I wont bother posting the letters
but the pics. are going in the data base here!

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2007-06-07, 04:41:43
anonymous from United States  
Another 'Olga'



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2007-06-07, 07:21:00
anonymous from Netherlands  
ALYONA <skwor@mailactive.info>


Hi my new friend :-)
Im glad to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very short letter.
It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any secrets.
The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and
I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends.
I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,
it is hardly possible to explain from first time but I want you to know my plans.
I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that
i am going through will suggest me some locations.
It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any
town of your area,agency will only help me to get a visa
and all travel documents + some suggested placed to work in.
My best friend last year met the man from the USA when she worked there for three months, too.
She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park
and after it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight.
She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think it is the right way for me ,
I am lost here,and I think that I look pretty enough to find a better place .I want to repeat the same way,it is
only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or any
nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my
life with good man because I'm also full of love and tenderness,I know that
I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince and
I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life!
This is why I am going to go through the same way.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly
right now) and I would like tobe sure that I have the man who waits for me there.
I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time together to get to know each other better.
if you have any interest to meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too.
I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and
want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
I write to you with my new mailbox skwor@mailactive.info, please write
letters now only on this mailbox.
I will wait your next letter.
Kiss you , ALYONA (this is my name)!



P. S.
I very much like verses! And you?
.........
For shame deny that thou bear'st love to any,
Who for thy self art so unprovident.
Grant, if thou wilt, thou art beloved of many,
But that thou none lov'st is most evident:
For thou art so possessed with murderous hate,
That 'gainst thy self thou stick'st not to conspire,
Seeking that beauteous roof to ruinate
Which to repair should be thy chief desire.......
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2007-06-07, 10:27:07
spraghuvanshi2006@yahoo.com from India  
somebody (especially lady/girls age over 20 yrs andless than 35 years) for friendship in delhi.
have a great day.
2007-06-07, 11:01:47
anonymous from United States  
Here's another picture of Olga. She has been busy with that BS.

thanks,
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2007-06-10, 17:37:38
anonymous from United States  
those who defend what we post here

the thing is, ive seen the emails ive gotten match WORD for WORD. VERBATIM.

the odds of this happening? not possible.
because its copy and pasted, if you see your letter here more then even once - then guess what? its a scam.
2007-06-10, 19:26:41
anonymous from Argentina  
I RECIVED THIS PICTURES
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2007-06-12, 07:32:33
anonymous from United States  
O.K., so I told her i knew she was scammin' but she still writes..


I that do not hide from you!!! You are expensive to me also I do not
want you to lose.
I wanted you to see and all and only for the sake of our meeting for me
are necessary money. But now I speak you, arrive to me to Russia and
you will see me.
I shall not ask money you. I think that you should arrive to me, I wait
for you!!!! When you will see me that find out that I speak you the
truth.
I hope that you will think well and will arrive to me. I shall wait for
you and it would be pleasant for me to acquaint you with my mum.
Our meeting will let to you know that I test huge feelings to you. I
LOVE YOU!!! I am sincere with you. Olga


You see why this is hard to turn down! LoL! Not like I can afford to go to Russia anyway.




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2007-06-12, 07:54:30
anonymous from Canada  
Olga the scammer....

Here is the most recent email + pic she sent me.


Hi!!!I do not receive the letter from you. I do not know what to do.I do not know what to think, but you do not write me.Me it upsets. I am very sad, because you do not write.You do not want to continue ours with you dialogue. I am simply upset.Can with you that happened. So inform me about it. I hope to receive from you the message. I ask you write to me.I shall wait for your letter, with impatience. I hope, that you will write to me soon. I shall wait.Yours Olga.




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2007-06-12, 08:50:17
anonymous from United States  
Interesting pic,wonder where it was taken?Look's like a Chrysler product from the late 40's,early 50's? Has a european license plate holder though.

Better write back,don't want to bweak hur widdle heart now do ya? LOL
2007-06-12, 11:05:48
anonymous from Mexico  
This girl is using the name Marina Bakylina

Her email is brilliantgirl@lavabit.com

She is a reall scammer, ans her stories are amazing !!!!
She has been saying that her boyfriend Dimitry has raped her and hit her and any kind of violence you´ve heard she will tell you about it. She also saids that his father wants to marry her with this guy becuase his family is reach and her last 15 years of her life have been worst than hell.

After a couple of emails she will say to you that she is in love with you and she dont have the money to travel to your country because her father has canceled her credit card and bank account and also she has been dumped out of home and thats when she apply´s the scam and says that she need the money in order to travel to your country and love you the est of her life.

Becareful !!!


Here are the pictures she is using.

Thanks for the site !!!


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2007-06-12, 11:06:56
anonymous from Mexico  
Becareful with this pretty scammer !!!

she is using the name Marina Bykilina
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2007-06-12, 11:07:50
anonymous from Mexico  
a real scammer !!!

Watch Out !!!
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