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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-06-26, 12:19:32
anonymous from Netherlands  
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Oke guys, she is a scammer. I have seen letter on the internet almost the samen as the letters i have had. Here are the letters:
2e:

I so am glad that you have answered mine not so big the letter to you.
Whether I do not know you will believe me, but I before did not
correspond never and with anybody from other countries. You know it my
first experience correspondence through the Internet. You would know I
for anything likely would not be solved will address in the Internet
for acquaintances. The matter is that my best the girlfriend has found
the boyfriend through that Internet. She to speak me that it is a good
way to find the second half. I am long thought and have dared to try
to search the happiness on the Internet. I want to tell to you about
myself and about That where I live. My name is Olga. To me 29 years
old. I was born on 28 November in 1977 in Yoshkar Ola, republic Mari
El. My growth of 170 centimeters, my weight approximately 56 kgs. I
live in a small one-room apartment on 3 floor. I work as the doctor.
Weather at us simply remarkable: in the summer at us heats the warm
sun, and sometimes even it is very hot. But winter at us simply cold
and severe. You knows it very sharp changes weather, but we have
already got used to these follies of the nature. I have been given
birth and have grown in this city. My parent have arrived to this city
before I was born on light. Earlier they lived in city Samara, but
they have moved in Yoshkar Ola because to the daddy have suggested
Favourable work and he did not begin to refuse. My father works as the
engineer on one From the enterprises of the heavy industry of our
city. Earlier He worked as the bus driver and him to pay not much.
Mine the daddy name Nikolay. At him good sense of humour. He very
beautiful and attractive person. In the summer he likes to go on
fishing, and sometimes and I to go with him as. It so is wonderful for
catching a fish in a huge pond. My mother the simple housewife. She is
magnanimous, good hearted, optimistical and very mobile. She well
writes and draws a pencil. When there is an opportunity, she goes on
art exhibitions. I have not wanted to be neither the teacher nor the
engineer and whom that also therefore when I have left school began to
study at medical university and now I work as the doctor. It is very
interesting to me to correspond with you. It is very interesting to me
find out about To you and about your way of life. I hope you to me
will write also will send me your photo also it will be very fast. I
shall tell to you much more about myself in the following letters.
Olga.

3e:
Very much it was pleasant to me that you have written me the letter.
Many thanks for your photo! I very much to admire you and you are very
attractive man! It is very interesting to me to find out more about
you and your country. In general it is interesting to me I for the
first time communicate with the person from another The countries. I
hope that to you as interestingly to write to me letters? To me You
are interesting to find out wrote to someone else except for me
before? And still you now with Somebody except for me you correspond?
To me it is interesting because to me always Did not carry with men. I
think that all the matter is that at us the man much and Frequently
drink vodka. On mine it is a general problem of Russia. For this
reason I Has addressed in the Internet. As I to you have told I I
write to you from Internet - cafe. It is usual library in which,
except for books still Some computers cost. Unfortunately I do not
have own computer Because I cannot dare to buy it. I work as the
doctor and it as you You know a trade which it is paid from the budget
of the country. And it is difficult for the country To pay work of
doctors because as explains our government the budget Russia tests
deficiency. It is interesting to me to find out what hospitals from
you and as Financing hospitals is arranged. It simply my professional
interest. Not Looking at that that we have some problems to me all the
same I is pleasant Work. Because I in the childhood dreamed to treat
people. I the doctor - anaesthesiologist and My duty will be that I
should support viability Human body during a narcosis. And
consequently frequently in my hands is Life of the patient. Certainly
it on would be much easier if our hospital was It is better equipped.
But it is not present because of bad financing. But we have already
got used to this and we do all that probably with that that we have. I
work during various time basically certainly in the afternoon, but
once in three days I work at night in a night shift. Sometimes there
are very complex days when much hardly Patients. In such days very
strongly you get tired. My mum very much experiences for me Because
she loves me. She always brought up me and spoke me what not Looking
on anything is necessary to help people. I completely with her agree.
Whether there are at you brothers and sisters, How frequently you with
them meet? I have senior brother to it of 30 years and at him There is
a family. He married two years ago and one year ago at them the son of
it was born have named Pasha. He such interesting. When my brother
come with the wife and small The son to us home I always am glad
because I very much love of children. And you like Children? Except
for that it is interesting to me as you will spend the free time? It
is very a pity to me, but I should finish the letter. I hope that you
You will answer me soon and you will answer my questions. With
impatience to see your letters Your friend in Russia Olga.

4:
I am glad that you have written to me. Today I come In internet-cafe
and I see the letter from you it me pleases. Many thanks for your
wonderful photos! Your garden divine!!! It is simply wonderful and
wonderful!!! All of you to raise? I think that you are interested in
me and you want to find out more about me. You are interested what
hobby at me? I can tell that at me the concrete hobby is not present.
But not looking at it at me is Some hobbies. Basically it is books and
billiards. Understand I read not all Books are not present I
successively like to read only a fantasy and novels because very much
it is pleasant to me This genres. I very much like to listen music! It
is pleasant to me various Styles and directions, but last time is
pleasant to me style New Ege because he Directs at reflections and I
like to listen to this music before dream. These are such groups As
Enya, Enigma and many others. Except for this music to me to like also
Popular American and English music. We have the radio most popular
Radio in Russia is radio Europe +. I constantly listen to this radio.
Probably you reflect What for I in general began to write to you? I
can tell only one. Understand Me I cannot find in Russia the person
which loved me and respected. As One wise person ' has told When we
live we are in search, in search of that Who can go with you on a
vital way because one to go very much and very much Difficultly. ' I
think that you agree with me? And if it is concrete, that I search in
the person This that that he was kind and careful. Probably it only
children's dream, But I think that you such. For me the purpose in a
life it to find the person Which can cares of me and about ours with
him children. I shall apply to this all Efforts on what I am possible
and there will be with this person a leg in a leg that To help and
support it. whether you to be interested to live I now with my
parents! There is no now I to live in a small apartment near to my
parents and I very much frequently to visit them! I love the parents!
Recently happened so I was on funeral The schoolmate. The matter is
that he recently has died of that that he used Drugs and he has died
of overdose. He was the excellent friend, he always came to me To the
aid when to me it was bad. He was the successful businessman. But
unfortunately he Has given in to drugs and unfortunately there is no
it more with us. I very much regret about It, and consequently I
categorically against drugs. I understand that to you very much It is
difficult to understand that I write, but you forgive me I use the
translator and consequently Probably there are mistakes in
translation. I studied English at university and I can speak fluently.
But to write in English at me there is no time In Internet - cafe. For
this reason I use the translator, it is fast and simple. I wait for
your letters and I can tell that this began for me more than simply
e-mail It on much greater. Yours faithfully Olga.

5e:
I am glad to see again your letter in the letter box. To regret I cannot frequently write to you because it is necessary me much To work
in hospital. I worked in a night shift and consequently I since morning for a long time slept. With Mornings I went to a sports hall.
I like to go in for sports because I think that it It is useful for health. From kinds of sports I prefer gymnastics and swimming. I like
to swimming. In the summer on the river and in the winter in pool. I like to watch myself and I I like when I look beautiful. And for this
purpose I put not small efforts. Many From our people do not go in for sports. They speak that they on it do not have time. But I think that
for sports always is possible to find time. I daily go Sports hall. I was accustomed to sports in the childhood. Father always spoke me that
It is necessary for me and I completely agree with it especially now. You to have many questions for me and it is not very a pity to me that
I can answer at once all.... It was very interesting to me to see you on an old photo and to search for you. I think that you №1...:) I hope
that I am not mistaken...:) It was really interesting to me to search for you!!! Please forgive me that I cannot to answer all questions
because I am still tired after my work... I remember That time when I studied at university. It were cheerful times. Certainly To study it
was difficult, but after study it was always cheerful. At us was cheerful The company and we each day off went to various clubs and
bars. This tradition Has remained till now and when we meet that we gather in any bar and We recollect ours student's time. Many of us
have already parted and work in Other cities. But the majority still in our city. When I studied in University we studied set of sciences,
but basically it is natural sciences. We six years studied in time so much is required to receive the maximum Formation and to become the
doctor. I love different kinds of the foodstuffs. But basically That I can cook for that. I like to cook I peep because it very much
Interestingly. Especially when you cook that for that new. It is a pity to me that to me is time to finish the letter. I wait for your
letters yours Olga.

She did not asked for money, butt i will mabey in letter nr 6. We will see.
More to come........



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2007-06-26, 14:14:05
anonymous  
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Looks like paranoia is setting in. Everyone is now a potential scammer, lets not get too excited guys. If you are not sure if someone is a scammer or not, just don't give them any of your personal info, and think abou it, is the internet really a good place for dating or meeting other people??? Posting just about anyones picture on here is not right, what if the person's picture you posted is real??
2007-06-27, 11:48:21
anonymous from Netherlands  


Here is more info:

My full name Olga
Vasilyeva and what is your full name? My adress: Republic Mari El,
City: Yoshkar-Ola index:424038 Post Office #1, P.O. box 109 Russia
2007-06-27, 12:33:20
anonymous from United States  
They're all 'real' NUT,if the pic's are used by scammers they should be posted regardless.They wouldn't have been stolen if the person didn't post them on a site were anybody can see them! It's NOT our fault a scammer got ahold of them! The large majority of those people don't have the faintest idea that their pic's are even beening used! So,you can't really fault them either,they victim's too! Scammers are THEIVES and that's the bottom line!
2007-06-27, 12:41:24
anonymous from United States  
That's good Netherland's.If you get more good info add it too. 1st time I ever saw them use a P.O.Box! Probably fake like the street addresses! If it's not though,it could be used to catch them!? At least in the US...They caught a Nigerian here not long ago who was working for a group in Nigeria as he went to the PO Box.Good that they got him,bad thing is now the taxpayers have to pay for his 'accomodations'!
2007-06-27, 12:49:52
anonymous from Mexico  
Que poca, no se dejen engañar cuidado con esa clase de gente que estafan por internet, a mi tambien me llegaron los correos con el nombre de Yulija, checas las fotos.
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2007-06-27, 19:54:16
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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2007-06-27, 19:55:19
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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2007-06-27, 19:57:28
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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2007-06-27, 19:59:09
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.

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Dating scammer Irina from Chita, Russia



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2007-06-27, 20:00:19
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.
2007-06-27, 20:00:21
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.
2007-06-27, 20:00:26
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.



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2007-06-27, 20:01:30
anonymous from United States  
She contacted me through True.com. immediately after signing up. In her e-mail at the True.com website she included her e-mail address at lapa@topsmail.net and said all correspondence should be sent to that address. Never answers specific questions but she loves me very much already, lol.



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2007-06-27, 20:02:27
anonymous from United States  



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