Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
I have been talking with this Elena Lanina , And her cousin . I have not sent any money but i am glad that i found this site .
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anonymous from Australia
Hi guys another sweet scammer to be added to internet: email@example.com
Hello Dear Friend !!! I am very pleased, that you have decided to answer mine
The letter. It means, which us will connect friendship. But I to think, which will be
Time of pass and we can answer on each other with mutual feelings of love. Yes???
Now I wish to inform you about me directly. My full name Tatyana. My name
Means ' Womanly both soft. Lyrical both shy. Hot and indulgent. It
Externally careless, in complex situations it is unexpectedly independent.
To make imagination before loss of feeling of the validity. This loved and love.
Given birth mum. ' To me 26 years. My Placed Birth May , 1. On an Kozerog of the Zodiacs,
I am left. And when your Day Birth??? I average growth, my growth 170
Centimeters and my weight of 55 kg, I think, the rest to operate about me you
Can see all in my photo which I have sent you in this letter. For me
The question is very important, whether my appearance of you liked???
In Russia there is such statement ' Meet on clothes, and see off on opinion. ':)
Therefore I think, that the first impression is very important. Though for
Me occurrence does not play value. I examine, that the person should be
Beautiful from within and beautiful should be this heart. You agree with me,
My dear Friend??? I live in Russia, in city, which Cheboksary
Addresses to. This city the purest city in republic Chuvashiya.
My city - very beautiful city. At us a lot of interesting, though also city not such
big. At us it is a lot of museums, parks, monuments, restaurants, cafe, clubs.
I work as the hairdresser and the stylist. I work at this job 3 years. And to me
very much to like. I think, that my job is good business. To me there come many people:
women and the man, also ask to make their beautiful. I try him to help.
If you want, I can send you some photos of hairdresses by which I do.
Now it is a little about my family.
I live one. My mum and daddy were lost in accident when I was still absolutely small.
And I almost do not remember them. Me has brought up and my grandmother has brought up. But
she too has died one year ago. It is hard, when you remain absolutely alone.
But I have many friends and girlfriends who always support me.
Probably, you will ask me, why I still unmarried and why I do not search for the friend and the
future husband in Russia??? I shall answer you it simply.
Because 3 long years, I cannot find anything here. And I have decided to try to find my love abroad.
My girlfriend has advised me to address in the Internet.
My girlfriend is already married. 2 years ago she has met on the Internet the future husband,
and now they live happily.
My dear! I to think, that I can answer you to time in two days, but I can be and
Once a day. I shall try to answer you as it is possible - more frequently. As
I very much wish to study you as soon as possible! You also want it??? My Fine
The friend! On it I shall finish my letter to you. I shall wait with big
Impatience of your letter. Your girlfriend Tatyana.
Can someone answer this question: when a Russian woman is planning to leave Russia, does she have to have $1600 in cash on her to show to the Russian embassy, demonstrating (I guess) that she has resources, such as she is capable of supporting herself while gone and has the funds to pay for her return, or any other such reason. The situation is this: she's supposedly got the visa and other documentation. Now she needs $1600 to show the embassy. Any ideas?
anonymous from United States
A Russian girl doesn't need $1600 to pass customs.
firstname.lastname@example.org from Netherlands
No but she need to have a certain amount of cash or checks with her so she can support her self I think it's about 30$ to 50$ dollar for each day she is staying and she needs a health insurance .I know for shure it's the case in europe i don't know about America
anonymous from Canada
Sounds like a different angle on the usual scam.There is some truth to it , though.
Just , PLEASE BE CAREFUL.
anonymous from Australia
Those of you live in Australia, email@example.com introduced herself as Julia to me is another scammer targetting Aussie blokes.
BINGO Natalya strikes again. I thought that her pictures looked a little too professional, for a poor pediatrician. And I was right. I was a little suspicios from the start. I got her first letter on 6/22/06, and to date, I have recieved a total of 4 letters. Everyone better than the last. I had noticed that she never really addressed the things that I had mentioned, in my letters to her. It all looked a little prefabricated. So tonight I decided to 'Google' Pediatric Polyclinic Borisoglebsk Russia, to see if she was listed as 'faculty'...and I ended up here.
Yesterday I gave her my address, then I became a little concerned after I thought about it. This has not cost me any money, and tomorrow I will be taking steps to cover my backside. I don't think that she can do anything with my address. But now that I know the story...I may play her like a Stradivarius. Or I may just block her from sending me mail. I am so very grateful that I found tis web site...whew!! This image was also posted here: Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers