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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-07-16, 14:21:47
anonymous from South Africa  
I tried to call the number in Senegal,and it dont go through, i doubt it ever will ring
lol
2007-07-17, 09:16:30   (updated: 2007-07-17, 09:23:49)
S from United States  
Well,I will post some link's for the blonde above.Another one I found while searhing for a different one.I remembered her face {who wouldn't!?} Haven't seen them used in quite awhile though!

This site has many 'familiar faces' on it;
http://www.sologals.com/

This is one of her sites; {YES,she's a porn-star!}
http://www.naughtyg..andy.com/


You can find other sites with 'Naughtygirlsandy' by clicking her pic on sologals.

She IS naughty! lol


SO! That should prove that the post above from 'Germany' is most likely a vlad !
2007-07-19, 10:01:49
anonymous  
There's knock on your door, and an unfamiliar sexy voice calls your first-name. A peek, and there's an unknown hot girl. The inexperienced would open the door, rushing to unzip the wallet. The experienced would first ask 'who's it?', for he thinks it could be a tax collector.
2007-07-19, 15:17:54
Skeet from United States  
The Russian one is pretty well used.Never saw the other one before.

For future reference the following is the important info to post first;

A photo {preferably labeled with the name and e-mail address}

Name {with surname if possible}

E-mail address

Location {country,city,street}

Phone number {if given}

The first and money request letter,with full header.With that the IP can be seen and if an X-mailer {ie;THEBAT- For Russian scammers}is used.

The dating site the scammer contacted you on.


With that available people doing a google search will get answer's.
2007-07-20, 07:52:41
AlanGunhouse@Yahoo.com from United States  
Skeet: If you know Anastacia, please post her pictures here, the program did not recognize any of them when I sent them to picture search. At the very least, tell me where you have seen her.

The thing is, Anastacis is supposed to be coming here, and has not once asked me for any help to do so.
2007-07-20, 08:24:32   (updated: 2007-07-20, 08:33:34)
Skeet from United States  
Alan,I've seen your other post's elsewhere,did you post a header?The picture search won't give you a result unless the one you try is an EXACT duplicate of the one posted here,no photoshopping and MUST be the same size as well. I can't say for sure where I saw her,could be here somewhere,RD,Romancescams,Stop-Scammers,Anti-scam.org...I look at so many it's easier to recall a face.Have you googled 'her' e-mail addy?Do you have a surname?What site did you 'meet'her on? You can also google phrases from the letter's to see if they've been posted someplace before.Odd sounding ones work best like 'I see it is very short letter'{that one is real and will get alot of hits}All you do is copy & paste it in the search engine,just make sure to put it between quotation marks,like I did with the example.The header is one of the best way's to look for a possible scam though.RussianDetective has a good explanation on them.
2007-07-20, 11:42:43
anonymous from United States  
Googling Tips:

1) In the advanced google search, type an exact phrase, up to 10 words max.
2) Include unusual constructions, spelling, grammatical mistakes, etc. The scammers are experts in pidgin English. Those writing ordinary English are likely real persons.
3) Google 'her' figures, despite the numbers falling within a small range
4) 'her' city
5) 'her' postal code
6) phrases from 'her' profile in the dating site - you may want to copy and paste to a wordpad file, since she may soon be kicked out, and the links to the site you provide for others will be lost.

It's waste of time, searching for

1) 'her' age - most scammers choose a number between 23 and 31.
2) 'her' height - scammers' preferred range is 5' 5'' to 5' 11'' (although one scammer interchanged the 5 and 11, and I wondered how tall my ceiling should be, when both of us stand, what part of 'her' anatomy is straight in front of my eyes, etc.)
3) 'her' weight - this also falls in a range

When posting 'her' photo, include in your message itself, any body-piercings, tattoos, moles, dimples, whatever strikes you. The picture search has only limited capability for these texts, and also seems to expire in a few days. But your text in your message will point to the accompanying picture, readily.

Happy Hunting
2007-07-20, 13:37:29   (updated: 2007-07-20, 13:38:35)
anonymous from United States  
I find it much easier to copy & paste the phrases and then add the quotation mark's at the end's,work's fine for me.Like the post above,you can type it in and it HAS to be EXACT,including puncuation and spacing!Which is why I copy & paste what I want to search.

Two other thing's you can google are the street address and phone number.They only give result's if they've been posted before on a site that get's crawled.
2007-07-20, 15:52:04
anonymous from United States  
Anon US, thanks for your improvements. This is about helping each other, simplifying tasks, above all defeat the scammers.

Sometimes there are problems with copy paste, a single quote in the search string may be rendered as inverted question mark. If you try copy and paste from Wordpad to this thread, a double quote that you want will be converted to a single quote, that you did not mean.

Keep your contributions coming in.
2007-07-20, 16:25:31
Skeet from United States  
Was that you Drod? The sign-off look's like your's.
I've had problems posting here quite a few times! Sometimes it repete's them a few times and I've had it lock up and not take it at all.If it does that I copy it and leave the site and come back,it usually work's then!? I know what you mean with wordpad,have you tried it with notepad?Never though of it til now! LOL {must be 'craft' setting in with age!}{that's 'Can't Remember A F'in Thing' for those who didn't know}
2007-07-20, 16:36:49
drod from United States  
S,

Always sign mine. At least in some way. Only 'anon' on rare occacions for the BS posts, but still do 'gh'

Use word, haven't had it double, but have had it not post, both using word or simply typing in post like this.

Best luck I've had is 'send comment' which brings up comment to thread, go 'home' and back. Works for me.

good hunting............drod

what goes around comes around
2007-07-21, 15:35:18
anonymous from United States  
WATCH OUT GUYS = RUSSIAN DATE SCAMMER ALERT # 1,437 ON THIS CHICK

LATEST SCAM NAME USED: YANA SVISOVA EMAIL: MSLIGHT29@YAHOO.COM

this time she's going by the name and email of:

Yana Svisova<mslight29@yahoo.com>;


WATCH OUT GUYS .... THESE CHICKS ARE AFTER YOUR MONEY !


RUN LIKE HELL AND REPORT THEM TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY !


P.S. - THE IP ADDRESS ON THE LATEST EMAIL SAYS IT'S FROM FINLAND

=====================================================
DATEATE SCAM EMAIL FROM - AKA - 'YANA SVISOVA' mslight29@yahoo.com =

It is me again. I cannot belive I am in Moscow already. It was a wonderful flight
for me and everything went well. You know even though Moscow is a capital of our
big country, it is just like some country. Different people, life and the prices
are very very high. People are very rude and angry, they always rush in a hurry
and always trying to be cautious.

When I got off the plane and was waiting for baggage a policeman came up to me and
asked me to show my passport. They are all crazy here because of the terrorism.
I understand that they are cautious but still I think it is humiliating.
From the Airport I went by bus... it was so long way... about 1 hour and 30 minutes.
I've seen so many nice places in Moscow while going by bus!

Everything here is very expensive, not like in my city... and everywhere
are big crowds of people! Everywhere is so many people! I'm still
uncomfortable about it but I feel soon it will be OK. I've been to few shops
here today and I see goods are much more expensive here then in my native city.
I found a place to stay, I rent a room from an old woman. She is about 70 years
old. She said her husband died 2 years ago and she has two grown up children but
they are already married and don't come to visit her very often so she is alone
and she has not much money so she give in rent rooms in her apartment. She is very
nice woman )) She said I have to be very careful. You know... she said many girls
from small cities come to big cities... or even abroad... they are looking for a
better future and fortune but because they are from small cities they didn't imagine
their way to find the happiness can be not as easy as they thought... and some of
them can end up as prostitutes or something like that. She said I should be careful
when I meet you!! But I don't worry about you! I feel with all my heart you are really
nice man! And I think I'm enough educated not to end up as a prostitute and I will
find my happiness! Sorry I wrote you about my worries.. I have nobody to write about it.
My parents and my sister are worried enough about me and I don't want to make them
worry more. I think that's really good I've met you! I can write you about everything.
I miss my parents... but I'm getting better with every hour ))
Now I'm very hungry and I will go and eat something.
Please confirm the name of airport and be sure you wrote it right.
Please confirm me your full name and telephone number.
Please don't be mad! I just want to be sure I have your contacts! This way I will feel
more confident. I am afraid to make any mistake... I hope everything will be fine.

I will write you with all the information about my trip when I get it.
Excited??? Me too!!! Well, I will cose this letter. Please write me as soon as possible.

Yana with a great kiss frMoscow! !!

============================================
LATEST SCAM NAME USED: YANA SVISOVA EMAIL: MSLIGHT29@YAHOO.COM


WATCH OUT GUYS = RUSSIAN DATE SCAMMER ALERT # 1,437 ON THIS CHICK

this time she's going by the name and email of:

Yana Svisova<mslight29@yahoo.com>;


WATCH OUT GUYS .... THESE CHICKS ARE AFTER YOUR MONEY !


RUN LIKE HELL AND REPORT THEM TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY !


P.S. - THE IP ADDRESS ON THE LATEST EMAIL SAYS IT'S FROM FINLAND
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Keywords:
2007-07-21, 15:57:42
anonymous from United States  
WATCH OUT GUYS = RUSSIAN DATE SCAMMER ALERT # 1,437 ON THIS CHICK

LATEST SCAM NAME USED: YANA SVISOVA EMAIL: MSLIGHT29@YAHOO.COM

this time she's going by the name and email of:

Yana Svisova<mslight29@yahoo.com>;


WATCH OUT GUYS .... THESE CHICKS ARE AFTER YOUR MONEY !


RUN LIKE HELL AND REPORT THEM TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY !


P.S. - THE IP ADDRESS ON THE LATEST EMAIL SAYS IT'S FROM FINLAND

=====================================================
DATEATE SCAM EMAIL FROM - AKA - 'YANA SVISOVA' mslight29@yahoo.com =

It is me again. I cannot belive I am in Moscow already. It was a wonderful flight
for me and everything went well. You know even though Moscow is a capital of our
big country, it is just like some country. Different people, life and the prices
are very very high. People are very rude and angry, they always rush in a hurry
and always trying to be cautious.

When I got off the plane and was waiting for baggage a policeman came up to me and
asked me to show my passport. They are all crazy here because of the terrorism.
I understand that they are cautious but still I think it is humiliating.
From the Airport I went by bus... it was so long way... about 1 hour and 30 minutes.
I've seen so many nice places in Moscow while going by bus!

Everything here is very expensive, not like in my city... and everywhere
are big crowds of people! Everywhere is so many people! I'm still
uncomfortable about it but I feel soon it will be OK. I've been to few shops
here today and I see goods are much more expensive here then in my native city.
I found a place to stay, I rent a room from an old woman. She is about 70 years
old. She said her husband died 2 years ago and she has two grown up children but
they are already married and don't come to visit her very often so she is alone
and she has not much money so she give in rent rooms in her apartment. She is very
nice woman )) She said I have to be very careful. You know... she said many girls
from small cities come to big cities... or even abroad... they are looking for a
better future and fortune but because they are from small cities they didn't imagine
their way to find the happiness can be not as easy as they thought... and some of
them can end up as prostitutes or something like that. She said I should be careful
when I meet you!! But I don't worry about you! I feel with all my heart you are really
nice man! And I think I'm enough educated not to end up as a prostitute and I will
find my happiness! Sorry I wrote you about my worries.. I have nobody to write about it.
My parents and my sister are worried enough about me and I don't want to make them
worry more. I think that's really good I've met you! I can write you about everything.
I miss my parents... but I'm getting better with every hour ))
Now I'm very hungry and I will go and eat something.
Please confirm the name of airport and be sure you wrote it right.
Please confirm me your full name and telephone number.
Please don't be mad! I just want to be sure I have your contacts! This way I will feel
more confident. I am afraid to make any mistake... I hope everything will be fine.

I will write you with all the information about my trip when I get it.
Excited??? Me too!!! Well, I will cose this letter. Please write me as soon as possible.

Yana with a great kiss frMoscow! !!

============================================
LATEST SCAM NAME USED: YANA SVISOVA EMAIL: MSLIGHT29@YAHOO.COM


WATCH OUT GUYS = RUSSIAN DATE SCAMMER ALERT # 1,437 ON THIS CHICK

this time she's going by the name and email of:

Yana Svisova<mslight29@yahoo.com>;


WATCH OUT GUYS .... THESE CHICKS ARE AFTER YOUR MONEY !


RUN LIKE HELL AND REPORT THEM TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY !


P.S. - THE IP ADDRESS ON THE LATEST EMAIL SAYS IT'S FROM FINLAND
This image was also posted here:
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Alevtina Volgunova, from Serga, Permskaya
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Dating scammer Tatiana Ivanova
Dating scammer Irina Gennadevna Popova from Angarsk, Russia
Dating scammer Tatiasna Ivanova from Tibelti, Russia
Dating scammer Uliya Buharina Cheremkhovo from Russia
Dating scammer Irina Gennadevna Popova from Angarsk, Russia
Dating scammer Irina Gennadevna Popova from Angarsk, Russia
Dating scammer Elena Yanchurova
Dating scammer DUKA NATALIA
Dating scammer Elena Yanchurova
Dating scammer Tatiasna Ivanova from Tibelti, Russia
Dating scammer Irina Gennadevna Popova from Angarsk, Russia



Keywords:
2007-07-23, 11:18:50
anonymous from United States  
Skeet, re: post 2007-07-20, 16:25:31

delphifaq post is set to 87 characters per line. If the Notepad width settings don't match, the wrap may format differently. When pasted from this sort of Notepad settings, there may be extra carriage return characters, may need re-editing. It seems far easier to do all the editing while composing the post with Wordpad. I like to see more contributors on Wordpad Vs. Notepad, the easier of the two for posting.

Good Hunting.
2007-07-23, 15:49:59
drod from United States  
S,

Once again, it's not me. Have been using it here too long. You'll know mine.

I don't cap my signature.

good hunting...........drod

what goes around comes around

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