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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2007-07-30, 08:22:01
eddie from Sweden  
anonymous 2007-07-30, 08:06:54

there must a few about or they wouldn't try it :(

anonymous from United States:

I don't know what you mean about Pony Express (or Money Express?). I checked the price of US visas on the US embassy site in Moscow. It was 100 bucks exactly.
2007-07-30, 09:12:40
anonymous from United States  
Eddie, on my post 2007-07-30, 07:44:51,

When I opened http://moscow.usemb..ngscam#q9

I also did not understand, Pony Express. Sure, my Embassy should know better than to hire a Ukrainian Translation Agency to create this Web page
2007-07-30, 11:28:15
drod from United States  
Eddie,

googled 'pony express'

http://www.ponyexpr..c&lang=en

A Russian courier service

good hunting...........drod

2007-07-30, 12:59:31
Eddie from Sweden  
anonymous from United States
about the US embassy website

6. My foreign friend wants to come visit me but says that s/he must purchase insurance and have $300.00 in cash to show s/he can afford to travel. How much money are visitors required to show?
7. The individual I'm writing to says that s/he needs $1,000.00 to show for 'pocket' money' or the airline won't let him/her board the plane. Is this true?

both completely fallacious of course. But The US Embassy in Moscow will obviously not issue a tourist visa to a Russian citizen if they have no visible means of support during their visit to the USA... ie the same difference.

And I remember when I went to the US in 1986, in the good old days before biometric ID, i had an interview at the US Embassy in London and had to provide a (false) letter from my employers and prove how much money I could take with me. Quite a few of my erstwhile buddies were turned back at JFK by the INS and sent back to Europe because they didn't have enough cash with them (credit cards were not ubiquitous in those days).

I still outstayed my visa by 18 months LOL.
2007-07-30, 16:53:54
Skeet from United States  
I still don't see any e-mail addy's!? Anon's,PLEASE reread my post,the more of that info that is posted the better!


She's not there...
2007-07-30, 18:40:04
telephonesvcman@yahoo.com from United States  
her name is Ekatertina or Katyla last name Albahtina from of Volzhsh Russia has anybody seen her before.
2007-07-31, 00:07:05
anonymous from United States  
I received this message back in October 2006. This man/woman never answer all my questions. I figured it was a scam, so I din't bother to reply his/her message much. See her photos.

Her email address is : nadejdaaas@gmail.com


Here is a sample of her email letter:

Hello Buster! Thank you for the answer on my mail. I was really sure that you would answer me.
And I am very glad to get your letter. Thank you very much. I even didnt suppose that it would be so simply and easy. I didnt think that you Buster will answer so quickly. I have never communicated with someone by the Internet and I dont know what to write, what will be interesting for you.
Well, lets begin from my name: my name is Nadezhda. I live in Russia. The name of the town where I live is Cheboksary. It is placed on the north of Russia. This town is not big but it is cozy and beautiful. I am 29 years old, not married. I work a nurse in the Children's hospital. What is your profession? I have black hair and brown eyes. My weight is 65 kg and my height is 168 sm. I am going to send you my picture, hope you will like it.
Please send me your pictures, if you have them.
I got married in 25 years old and had 2 years of family life. And then unfortunately we divorced. And are you Buster married, do you have children? If yes, what are their names, how old are they, what do they do in their life - I have no my own children. I regret about that. I'd like to have children, but it happened so in my life that I didn't experience the happiness to be a mother, but I'd like it very much. For my happiness, my job is connected with children. And it a little compensates lack of children's warmth. What is your attitude to children?
I like to read interesting books, especially novels and detectives. And I must to read medical literature a lot to be good specialist. Do you like to read? If yes, what do you like to read? And what do you like to do for fun? As for me, I like to go Cinema Theater and theater, to visit museum, and just to walk on the fresh air. I enjoy of meeting my relatives and friends. Unfortunately, I have no a lot of time and finance possibility to do that all very often. But I always try to find free time when my dear and close people want to see me!
Please tell me about your family. I live alone. I lost my father a lot of years ago and my mother died 3 years ago. It was very difficult for me to lose them and to realize that I am alone. I have good relatives and real friends, but all they have their families, but I am alone. That is why I have decided to try to find dear man for me abroad. It is so difficult to met good man in Russia. May be you have heard that a lot of them drink a lot. It is more awful illness than others. My husband drank and I wouldn't like to feel what it means to be a wife of man who drinks one more time. I just want to be happy as any woman in the world.
I have no my personal computer that's why I go to Internet cafe and use the Internet there. I am sorry but I won't be able to write you very often, I have no such possibility. I hope you will understand me and will not offended if I write you not so often as you want. O.k.!? I think I must end the letter. I was glad to answer on your letter. Hope to receive your answer very soon. Hope you Buster will interested in communicating with me. I will very happy to get your letter!
I put my photos to this letter.I hope you Buster will like this picture.Later I will send you any more pictures. Bye-bye! Yours Nadezhda !!!

P.S. maybe it is interesting for you to know where I studied English - I studied it only at school. I like this language very much - it is very simply and beautiful. And do you know something on Russian?



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2007-07-31, 00:09:31
anonymous from United States  
Here is some pics of Nadezhda, Anastasia, Elena Alekseeva, Nasta28love:




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2007-07-31, 00:10:33
anonymous from United States  
Here is another one of her photo




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2007-07-31, 00:11:31
anonymous from United States  
Here is another photo:




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2007-07-31, 00:12:40
anonymous from United States  
Another photo of Nadezhda:




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2007-07-31, 10:12:44
anonymous from Canada  
i hope they never give up i like looking at hot chicks i dont even have to go to strip clubs anymore keep the pics coming
2007-07-31, 13:06:25
anonymous from Canada  
id give them a dollar for there g string men i amone pay for nothing they want a free ride i know ive been married 30 years my wife never worked
2007-07-31, 14:46:17
anonymous  
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Here is the picture of Natasha who was very good at scamming Americans men. Her name is Natalya Nikolaevna Yarovikova. She told me her address was: Molodezhnaya 5-110; Mari-El; Yoshkar-Ola, Russia. She works as a Nurse and has a Son named Klim
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Natalia
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2007-07-31, 15:40:40
anonymous from United States  
Another photo of Nadezhda. She keep replied my email but never answer all my questions. She haven't asked me for any money yes. The clue to this scam is both of her/his parents passed away and she/he is by herself. :). Same old story from these suckers.

Here is another sample of her email:

Hello Buster, nice to write you again. I am really happy that you have written to me!
I didn't still believe that I am communicating with you! How are you? And I am o.k!
I'd like to continue to tell you about myself.
I want to tell you Buster about my work, because it takes great part in my life!
As I have told you I work a nurse in the children's hospital, I work in the surgery branch.
There are there the children whose illnesses require the surgery treatment. I take care of them, tie up their wounds, treat the surgical seams, easing the pain and etc.
I work with children - it is so great. They are so pure, naive and defenseless. I so love children. I love my work. And do you love your work Buster?
I think that I would never change my job. I would change only one thing - the salary! It is hard work, but the salary is too small. I dreamed to be a medical worker since childhood. When I have finished the school I was really sure that I would get the medical education. I dreamed to study in the medical institute, but in our town there is no the medical institute. I had a lot of reasons not to go to another town. One of them was that I couldn't leave my mother. She was ill very often. I have no sisters and brothers; there was nobody with her except for me.
And I had to be with my mother at this period. So I finished the college and began to work. I know that in your country nurses have the higher education, but in Russia we have only secondary education. I was studying for 3 years.
And after ending the college I was invited to work in the children's hospital. At first time I was afraid, because I didn't know how to find the common language with children. It turned out not as difficult as I thought.

Buster what about you - what educated establishment did you finish? What was your education?
Why did you choose this profession and do you work on this profession now? I chose this profession because i wanted to help people. In fact health is the main and the most valuable thing in our life. The health it is happiness. And it is so great that I can give people the health and it means I can make them happy. And it is more important that I treat children. I make happy them and their parents. I get a great pleasure from taking care of small children. They are so thankful. I am happy too when I see the smiles on their faces and hear their sonorous laugh.
Oh, it is so great, it is so wonderful! I am happy person, because I have found my place in the life. I am thankful to the God for that. And you Buster please tell me more about your job.
It will be very interesting for me. Work takes the biggest part of our time and it is very important do you love your job or not. I was lucky, my choice was right. I want to tell you that I have a special ability, I have a special internal feeling: I always really know what to choose, what to do min different situations - it is very good capability for medical worker, isn't it? Very often I was convinced that my choice was absolutely right. And I am sure that I chose you Buster among a lot of other men on site not casually. I felt that I had to choose you. And I am happy that maybe the God showed me on you Buster. I like to communicate with you, really like. I hope that you will give this pleasure to connect with you very soon! I am waiting for your answer! Have a good mood and health! Bye-bye! Sincerely yours Nadezhda!!!

P.S. I have found some my photos. I send you Buster them: you will have the better representation about me, you will be able to imagine whom are you communicating with.
Well, I have the hope that you Buster will like it! please write to me what do you think of these pictures and of me.



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