Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection
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Last week I got contacted via my profile on a dating web site. The person had a temporary profile only with no picture posted and sent me a one-liner including her yahoo address and she asked me to add her on the yahoo messenger.
I was bored so I fulfilled her request.
Her profile had said she was from Illinois, USA. I live in California. Once we chat on Y! messenger, she says she just left Madrid/ Spain and is in West Africa now.
Supposedly she works for a diamond company which is owned by her step dad. She lives with her daughter since her husband (or kids father, I do not recall) left her after the kid was born. Here are her photos - I am not quite sure that they are really HER photos:
She also tells me that she is on bad terms with her step dad since he asked her for sex. (If that's her real photos, I might ask her for sex also.)
During the chat she was kind of evasive, did not answer my questions but instead asked me questions herself. After about 30 minutes she said she'd have to leave West Africa soon and wants to come to the Bay Area (which is why she had written me) and whether she could stay at my place for a week or two until she had gotten herself a place.
She wanted to see photos of my house (I mailed her two).
During the following week we briefly chatted maybe 3 times. No deep conversation, this woman does not spell well, and obviously does half a dozen chats parallel.
I asked her to visit a web site that I host so that I could trap her IP number. It was 196.3.62.4
I used two different tools (web sites) to identify the location she was coming from. Most web sites reported this IP as in London, UK. One web site located it as CAPE GIRARDEAU, MISSOURI.
Note:
If you ever want to do this kind of check, grab the IP number from email headers and use a web site like www.ip2location.com on it. You need to make your email program or web client display all headers, to see the 'Originating IP'. Yahoo's email client offers this. I do not know about AOL or hotmail.
She claims to be on AOL (which I found strange, does AOL offer service in West Africa?)
Yesterday she started talking how her step-dad does not send the money he is supposed to send. A kind of allowance instead of a paycheck. Don't ask me for an explanation of this concept.
I did not like to hear her talk about bills that she cannot pay. I'm kind of allergic to this talk when I know a person from 60 minutes of chatting only :-)
Anyway, today she asked me directly to Western Union her the money, $750. As I am posting this, I am still chatting with her. A copy of today's chat is below.
(myself): hello?
Joy Johnson: i was unable to get u the number cos the phone network was bad
Joy Johnson: i was thinking of geting my self a foone
(myself): is it worth it when you're leaving soon?
Joy Johnson: No...thats the problem
(myself): can you do me a favor? Click on this?
http://www.ptiemann.com/
(myself): and then, what's the prob - you cannot leave?
Joy Johnson: i dont understand this whole thing
(myself): what thing?
Joy Johnson: what u talking about]
Joy Johnson: the webpage
(myself): oh
Joy Johnson: or what?
(myself): i didn't meant that you actually read it
(myself): i just wanted to see if it loads properly now
(myself): sorry
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): are you home?
(myself): i mean.. in the hotel
Joy Johnson: hotel
Joy Johnson: yeah.i just wsanted to know if u will be sending me some cash
(myself): how?
Joy Johnson: western union ....u know any western union around u
(myself): and which w.u. are you at?
(myself): do i need a city/ office number?
Joy Johnson: No u dont i will give u the whole infou need
Joy Johnson: you can send the money in the hotels managers name
(myself): well, what's the hotel's name then? and/or the manager's name
(myself): sorry for the huge font
Joy Johnson: Receivers Name:Mercy Gray
Address:12 hotel road.
City/state:lagos
Country:Nigeria
Zipcode/city code:23401
Amount:$750
Western union security question and answer:
Qfavourite colour
Aink
Joy Johnson: Receivers Name:Mercy Gray
Address:12 hotel road.
City/state:lagos
Country:Nigeria
Zipcode/city code:23401
Amount:$750
Western union security question and answer:
Qfavourite colour
A: Pink
Joy Johnson: thats the ifo
(myself): ok
Joy Johnson: info
Joy Johnson: do u know western union agent location
(myself): here in my area?
(myself): not from the top of my head
Joy Johnson: yes.do u
(myself): i need to look
Joy Johnson: u can give me your address i will find one for u
(myself): don't worry
(myself): i can find it
Joy Johnson: how will u do that
(myself): google
(myself): so how do i know you are really joy johnson
and not just someone making up things?
Joy Johnson: Babe can u just trust me and u see me once i get
to the bay area cos i will foward u my flight info
(myself): how much $ do you need anyway?
Joy Johnson: :$750
(myself): what is the company's name that you work for?
Joy Johnson: i told u yesterday united gemstones.........u dont
need it to send it ok
Joy Johnson: babe trust me
(myself): oh right, i could not find anything on the web
about 'united gemstones' either, but they are in Lagos, maybe that helps
Joy Johnson: dont worry just to western union agent location
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: what cirt are u in the bay area
(myself): capitola
Joy Johnson: ok.hold
Joy Johnson: is this ur zip code 95010
Joy Johnson: ???
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: joyee201: is this ur zip code 95010
joyee201: ???
Joy Johnson: are u there???
(myself): yes
(myself): 95010
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: 1475 41ST AVENUE
Joy Johnson: do u know this address
(myself): Sorry Joy, I just don't believe that you are in
Lagos, Nigeria. I think you're in London, England
Joy Johnson: peter u r so funny
(myself): and yes, that Western Union on 41st Avenue is only
a few minutes from me.. what's funny?
Joy Johnson: cos u said i am in england....maybe next year i should
go to london
Joy Johnson: u mean u have that location close to u
Joy Johnson: ????
(myself): yes, that western union.. maybe a quarter
mile from my house
(myself): i know it
Joy Johnson: babe i think it will be better u send the money
now because of the time difference
(myself): no way.. you need to give me some reason to believe
you.. I mean.. I WANT to believe you.. but there's evidence that you
are not in Nigeria, sorry
(myself): give me one reason that shows me you're really over
there and not in the UK or somewhere in the USA
Joy Johnson: the one reason is that am going to pick
the money up myself
(myself): i need to know a bit more about you
Joy Johnson: u did already......dont be silly peter....dont tell
me u dont know the first thing about me
Joy Johnson:
(myself): not really that much.. you've got a daughter, work
for united gemstones, stepfather is your boss (right?), doesn't
send you money (allowance instead of paycheck - strange concept),
you recently came from Barcelona/ Spain to Lagos/ Nigeria
(myself): did i forget anything?
Joy Johnson: No.....what else peter....cant u just trust me for
.... i will never disappoint u
(myself): why do you stay in Lagos if you don't get paid anyway?
Joy Johnson: i dont stay here,am heree temporary cos my step dad wants
me there......its not want i want,i just have to
Joy Johnson: peter
Joy Johnson: If I ever saw an angel, it was in your eyes
(myself): hm, that's a nice one
(myself): did my eyes reflect and you saw yourself?
(myself):
(myself): i've got an idea
(myself): is the 750 for the hotel?
Joy Johnson: eah
Joy Johnson: yeah
Joy Johnson: Jede Minute, die ich mit Ihnen aufwende, ist wie Sein im
Himmel und das Schauen in den Augen eines Engels
Joy Johnson: u know thats the truth
(myself): i could make a credit card payment to that hotel to
cover your bill
Joy Johnson: no....u cant...cos the whole of 750 is not for the hotel
Joy Johnson: ok....u just have to rush to western union....ok
Joy Johnson: do u have he info writen down
Joy Johnson: ??????
(myself): i cannot leave right now
(myself): i'm waiting for someone
(myself): it's 6:15pm
(myself): they're probably closed already anyway
Joy Johnson: no they close for 7pm....u can just rush ok....peter
do this for me now
Joy Johnson: ok.....i can get everything cleared tomorrow morning
Joy Johnson: it will only take 7mins or less for western union to
send the money
(myself): my friend is on the way right now
Joy Johnson: it dosent matter.since u r not going to take more than
10mins in western union...he can just wait for u
Joy Johnson: PLEASE
Joy Johnson: RITE AID #5966
1475 41ST AVENUE
CAPITOLA, CA 95010
Tuesday 8:00am - 9:00pm
Joy Johnson: u can just rush down and you wont take much time
Joy Johnson: PLEASE
(myself): I know the place, I go there twice a week..
(myself): why not a credit card payment?
Joy Johnson: it cant be sent
Joy Johnson: just go ok...for me peter
(myself): what is the $ for if not for the hotel?
Joy Johnson: for the hotel bill ,transportation cost.....
and medical checkup because of the weather here
Joy Johnson: ok.babe just try and go huh
(myself): nah, i don't feel as if i could quite trust
you yet
Joy Johnson: matbe u will trust me and more about me,as
soon as i get to the state
Joy Johnson: and peter if u say u dont trust me yet i understand
......but u just have to consider my situation and me myself i
promise never to let u down
Joy Johnson: Promise
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: are u there???
(myself): yes
(myself): phone
(myself): look
Joy Johnson: look what???
(myself): according to my info you're either in
Cape Missouri or London
(myself): and you give me absolutely no reason why
i should believe that you're in lagos
(myself): not even a hotel's name
(myself): or a phone #
Joy Johnson: ay hotels.....manager s # (+234)8053601940
Joy Johnson: +234 country phone code
Joy Johnson: what about this
Joy Johnson: ???
BUZZ!!!
(myself): yeah?
Joy Johnson: didu get it
(myself): the number is busy
(myself): which room are you in?
Joy Johnson: busy...maybe its the network
Joy Johnson: executive room 1
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: did u call d # again
(myself): that number is in Lagos?
Joy Johnson: yeah
(myself): area code is 805 ?
(myself): because i thought Lagos is area code 1
(myself): sweety, you need to improve
Joy Johnson: for landlines i think
Joy Johnson: 01 is for the land lines....the number i
gave u is a mobile # peter
Joy Johnson: thats why u need the +234 b4 dailing 8053601940
Joy Johnson: ok
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: peter can u tell me whats on your mind
Joy Johnson: cos........its like u dont even want
to take me for my words
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: Why?
BUZZ!!!
(myself): sorry
Joy Johnson: u not answering me
(myself): my friend was at the door
(myself): joy i need to go now
(myself): i cannot call that number again, my friend and i are going out
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): i'll try in a few hours when i'm back
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): see, i need to verify that what you tell me
is true.. ideally also that you are really that hot chick in
those photos, but that's probably impossible to prove
Joy Johnson: lol......why not
(myself): hm, can you mail another photo of yourself?
Joy Johnson: believe me or noy ,its joy in the pic
(myself): well, are YOU Joy then?
Joy Johnson: i will............will u send on ur way back
(myself): bye-bye
Joy Johnson: bye-bye
sorry this is not a post as such but i got this raven riley scam called pure love from this dating site
www.4ppl.com be aware of this site as there are some very good people on this site but a lot of scams and scammers please keep away from it a very good dating sit i now use is
http://www.plentyoffish.com/
From: greatgift1@live.com
To:
Subject: RE: hi
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:47:52 -0500
Hello my Dear,
Thanks for the mail..It was nice hearing from you ...Well i was born in the Australia but living in West Africa-Ghana at the moment with my Auntie and looking for a serious man to spend the rest of my life with..I am Simple,loving,Caring,honest and understanding,Hard working woman and want a man who will be able to love me for who i am and make me happy,Well here are some photo's of myself and hope you will like them.
Am looking for a Serious Man to Spend the rest of my life with,Someone who will be able to love me for who i am and Willing to take care of me and Make me very happy,I have been Hurt a Couple of time and Don't want anything like that in my life anymore and Hoping that kind of man is you....I have a lot of Love to give to the Man who will fall in love with me and I promise you ,You will never regret Falling in love with me........Its really hard to have much trust for some one you have not seen in your life but I think God knows why we have meet here on the internet and to that we two have to work hard to have a happy life.
I am a simple Lady,Never been married and Don't have any Kids.....Am a Hair Stylist and i enjoy it very much.Well my favorite food is Pizza,my favorite sports also is valley ball and net ball.Well i speak English and i hope you will like me as am not much perfect in the English but i think you will like me when we come together to share our life and you will never regret falling in love with me also.I seek a wonderful family together with my life, work together to support each other at all times to, Guess we have a chance to have a happy life now and its up to us to make the move to make things work.I have a very nice family and we are happy here and very good health family.I'm the only child.Am very interested getting to know you much better and see if we are meant together by the wings of God and i think God has a plans for us together.
Tell me about your dreams with the right woman by your side and , what do you think in mind having a nice woman and sincere understanding woman standing by your side in point of good times and hard times,Tell me all about yourself and send me some pictures of you too.
Best Regards,
Ruth..
And the pict they used this time:
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2009-01-11, 16:40:31
anonymous from Sweden
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2009-01-11, 16:41:06
anonymous from Sweden
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2009-01-11, 17:08:29
anonymous from United States
Peter L Cotton. Romance scammer, approaches woman on Match.com. Has had several usernames (pmagic2,4,6,8 etc.) Very intelligent, well written, very romantic and poetic. Pushes the 'right buttons' to get you to fall in love with him. Preys on women's compassion. Claims to have been born in Wayne, Maine. Raised in Spain. An orphan at 15, raised by his aunt Sophie in Sweden, who also died, has only one living relative, his cousin Linda aka Lil. Probably his wife and in on the scams with men. Gets you romantically involved then starts hitting you up for money. Has photos listed on snapfish.com. Probably the man in the photos is not him. Claims to be an architect and owns his own antiques business in Essex, England or Stockholm Sweden. Will win your heart and plan a future with you. But that day will never come because different problems start arising. He asks for money because: Immigration is holding his passport for $3000, Customs is holding his antiques shipment for same amount. The large check his client paid him for his architectural services is uncashable in Nigeria, so he has run out of funds. Hotel bill also needs to be paid. Hotel he is in does not exist. The requests for money never ends. Tries to make you feel guilty for not helping him. It's amazing how a successful architect owning his own antiques business has no money to return to the state. Ladies, do not fall prey to this 'demon seed.' He really has to be a son of satan to use God as a tool for wooing women and soliciting money from poor woman who believe him. Don't get fooled by him. Any man who asks a woman for money is a con artist. This image was also posted here: Primer for first time visitors (Dating Scams)
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2009-01-11, 21:56:11
anonymous from United States
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2009-01-12, 00:13:43
anonymous from United States
any one heard the scam about man with 16 year old daughter
says from and wife is dead of 6 years he is a widow
he works for the united nations and is a doctor
he cant get home cos he cant get to his money in the bank
because it is in bonds now has money but cant get to it
also they want to to do a bank transfer show you this
bank account NATION WIDE BANK WEB SITE
IT REDIRECT YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE TO LOGIN YOUR ACCOUNT AND PIN NUMBER
OK THE SCAMMER GIVES ME THE ACCOUNT AND PIN NUMBER TELL ME T O
DO THE TRANSFER SOME PEOPLE PRETENDING TO BE A BANK SEND ME THIS FAKE
LETTER WITH THE NAME SONYA LAMBERT And acounts managar WINSTON
THEY TELL YOU IN ORDER TO DO THE TRANSFER YOU NEED TO PAY A FEE
OF 2000 I OPEN THIS ACCOUNT AND THERE IS 75,000 IN IT THE ACCOUNT
IS UP AND RUNNING ON THIS BANK LOGN SITE FOR 1 WEEK
NOW IT IS NO MORE ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON I HAVE THE
ORIGINAL EMAILS SHOULD I POST THEM HERE THE FAKE BANK SITE
MAYBE IT IS MONEY LAUNDERING THESE PEOPLE ARE HIGH CLASS CRIMINALS
THIS IS THE MAN WHO SAYS HE IS DR BRYAN COLLINS WORKS FOR THE UN
WAS IN RUSSIA GEORGIA NOW CLAIMS HE IS BACK IN NIGERIA
CLAIMS HE LIVES IN ATLANTA GEORGIA
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2009-01-12, 04:33:34
anonymous from China
@Anon from US: That story is typical of the many scam stories on here. SCAM ! SCAM! SCAM!!!!
Do not send money to someone you have never met personally.
Do not send money to a PHOTOGRAPH!!!
2009-01-12, 16:08:05
anonymous
here is the scammer i was talking to *laughs*
Linda Fortmann: I am really not happy right now
tj: why is that?
Linda Fortmann: Cos right now i am not in the state
Linda Fortmann: I am stucked and stranded here right now
tj: wth... why?
Linda Fortmann: Is a long story
Linda Fortmann: i will be very happy if you can kindly help me out of here
tj: ummm where are you at?
Linda Fortmann: Right now i am stucked and stranded in West Africa
Linda Fortmann: In Nigeria
tj: thought you were staying with family there
Linda Fortmann: Nope
Linda Fortmann: Well i will like to know more about you
tj: ask questions and you can get to know me
Linda Fortmann: Well whats your name
tj: TJ , yours?
Linda Fortmann: Cool
Linda Fortmann: I am Linda Fortmann
tj: so why are you stuck there again?
Linda Fortmann: I started my fairy tale when I was just 5 YEARS old,I never grow up to know who ever my father was,I also lost my grandma when i was still in college in Ukraine Then my mother had to riase me all alone, I was the only child of the family.I also lost my mother some years ago she had luekemia and doctors can't help too
tj: dotn know my real father so i can understand that, mother raised me but she remarried to a guy who was abusive towards me and used her for money & sex.
Linda Fortmann: After my mother's death I stay indoor and I was too puny and so lonely and weak all days and that makes me sick for long period of time,And after my Illness,I continue to survive the world myself
Linda Fortmann: How do you mean
tj: my step-dad molested me, and he used my mom for sex, he also took out large loans of money from banks in her name to spend on things he wanted to buy. he's in jail now because of it and mom lost it all
Linda Fortmann: I met a Guy Called Daniel in a restaurant,He come for a Degree in illinois and He's from Africa, and he promised and proclaim to be there for me in raining and dry seasons. He said he's going to carry away my sorrow and weep away my tears.'No matter how ugly you think you are, that special someone that loves you believes you are the most beautiful and irresistable thing on earth' I taught I have found my soulmates then
Linda Fortmann: Sorry to hear that
tj: meh life sucks, im surviving right now by working hard at two jobs so i can pay rent (car broke down so dont have a car right now). so where is daniel now?
Linda Fortmann: So I agreed and started living with him when i have no parents and Relatives and No friends that i can stay with
tj: you from states orginally?
Linda Fortmann: I was with him for some time.One day he asked if I would come over to Africa to see his parents and we can get engaged so I can be happy after all the sorrows I had
Linda Fortmann: Yeah i am born and rasied in illinois
Linda Fortmann: and you
tj: im from iowa but moved to illinois after being in navy
Linda Fortmann: I agreed to go on the trip to Africa with him. I saved enough to keep us confortable while we were away,We both lodged into an Hotel to stay while we were still in town, and After four days to our arrival in Africa in the hotel
Linda Fortmann: My boyfriend left me in the same hotel room and he stole all my stuff including my Cash and My Jewelries. I was left stranded here with nothing
BUZZ!!!
tj: im here
tj: you could go to the US embassy there
Linda Fortmann: I have reported the case to the american embassy here in nigeria,and they have promised to get me back to teh State Safely But when the management of the Hotel talk to them seriously about their Bills
Linda Fortmann: So they ask me to get back and the problem is that am unable to pay for the hotel bills,for that
Linda Fortmann: the manager seized my return Open ticket And All the travelling document and my personal belongings and he has been on my neck to pay him his hotel bills
because of that, would not allow me go out of the premises even for a second
tj: the embassy can be empowered to pay those bills for people that are stranded, one of the regulations garunteed to foriegners, just gets tacked onto nation's debt
Linda Fortmann: I dont know how to pay The Bills because The basterd as stolen everything beloging to me, money, jewelries. so i dont think you are going to need me because i thought that you'll need a woman you can meet today or next
tj: im interested in meeting and hanging out yes, but your problem sounds like something you should be dealing with the US embassy. they can pay all your bills for you and get you 'deported' back to states here
Linda Fortmann: If i was at home that would have been possible but i am out of the Country Now,i will never make you regret helping me Because I am not looking for a Financial Support Only But I am seeking A Loving,Carring,And Honest man like you are in my life
Linda Fortmann: I tried them but they said all they can do is just to help me renew my plane ticket and and me re-route it to any desination
Linda Fortmann: i will be very happy if you can kindy help me out of here
Linda Fortmann: all i am owing is not much
Linda Fortmann: I will be very much more than happy if you can kindly help me here right now
tj: if you have money in your bank saved up then you can have the US embassy get ahold of your bank and western union money to yourself to pay for it. (even if your daniel' stole your cash & jewelries) you could get money from your bank via a personal loan to pay for the hotel costs
Linda Fortmann: brb
tj: so what part of nigeria are you in?
Linda Fortmann has signed out. (1/12/2009 8:53 AM)
2009-01-13, 08:15:41
anonymous
I too had recently had an incounter with a man from nigeria, i was seeling my computer on craigs list. and this guy from nigeria had gotten back to me wanting to buy it from me i was hesitant at first but then went through with the deal, he said that he could only send me the money using paypal, and i have known people that use it and they said that it is a secure website. So i aggred to do it. I had told him i would only mail the package if i got the money first. Then i recieved a message from paypal saying that in order to secure both parites i would have to send them the tracking number of my package fist in order for me to get my money. That seemed fair, i went and did that. Then i was recieiving letters from him and paypal saying thst the accounting departement messed up and over charged his credi card 300 dollars and that i was to mail him back the 300 wester union that day. This is where i knew this is a SCAM, i called paypal and they said that i never even had an account with them and it was a scam, that these people in nigeria set up there own paypal accounts too look like the real pay pal but it is not. So if you know anyone who gets emails from any one in nigeria or if they are asking you to send them money do not it is a SCAM they dont have any money. and if you use paypal be ware becuase the nigerias run there SCAMS through paypal, and they will tell you they can only pay you through paypal do not go through with it its a SCAM and report it right away!!
2009-01-13, 11:09:43
anonymous from United States
brendabendit@yahoo.com
I asked for a picture with front page newspaper
sent this photoshopped image of a picture she already send me
reversed and added paper
i have to prove myself to you with this babe to show how much i love and care for you
Here is the picture that this scam artist is using . And the fake company ID that he is using lady's be aware very good looking picture. He claims he is in Italy and son goes to another country from miami and get sick. His wife died 10 years ago. and he loves you and alot off lies. Claims he has diable brother in miami that son live with that goes for treatment in London England. Want you to send him money to pay hospital bill.
This guy is claiming to be white but he will give you his phone number that is in Nigiria but claim he in italy may also give you a London # claims you can send money to his brother.
Lady's he a great looking guy but too good to be true please be careful.
Hey Folks....
Had a great time with a cutie claiming to be 32 years old. Brazilian born visiting her sister and her newborn baby in Idaban, Nigeria.
Laid great Love and Affection on me with Love Letters to die for and poetry. Favorite words were 'Babe' and 'honey'. Mis spelled words and claimed she had an MBA from a University in Australia.
Claimed she lived in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada for 3 Years. Posted her profile and Pic on Latin Love Search...Now disappeared.
First money request was to restore internet services $125.00 USD so we could continue our love affair.....Next hit was for $1900.00 and change to buy a KLM ticket to come to Canada to be with me promising endless sex and favors. What a Croc!!!
Had nice family pics of her, her with sisters baby, her with friends in costumes, her in front of a store called serendipidy..wherever. Cute however, long dark hair, slim build about 5ft. 7inches. Truly I was hoping to score her but alas...no go.
Best line of crapp I ever heard. Gave me a phone number of: 234-022022322. Her Latin Love Search name was: caringhearteve Her E-Mail is: eve33@live.com
This chic tried everything until I threatened to have Nigeria nuked out of existence and put all residents to the sword...Ha Ha!!!
Best Bullshit letters any whore ever wrote to me and the poetry was better than Keats.
You got to love these assholes for trying. Best 11 days of recreation I ever had playing these jerks.
BE VIGILANT......THIS WILL NEVER END!!!