Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection
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Last week I got contacted via my profile on a dating web site. The person had a temporary profile only with no picture posted and sent me a one-liner including her yahoo address and she asked me to add her on the yahoo messenger.
I was bored so I fulfilled her request.
Her profile had said she was from Illinois, USA. I live in California. Once we chat on Y! messenger, she says she just left Madrid/ Spain and is in West Africa now.
Supposedly she works for a diamond company which is owned by her step dad. She lives with her daughter since her husband (or kids father, I do not recall) left her after the kid was born. Here are her photos - I am not quite sure that they are really HER photos:
She also tells me that she is on bad terms with her step dad since he asked her for sex. (If that's her real photos, I might ask her for sex also.)
During the chat she was kind of evasive, did not answer my questions but instead asked me questions herself. After about 30 minutes she said she'd have to leave West Africa soon and wants to come to the Bay Area (which is why she had written me) and whether she could stay at my place for a week or two until she had gotten herself a place.
She wanted to see photos of my house (I mailed her two).
During the following week we briefly chatted maybe 3 times. No deep conversation, this woman does not spell well, and obviously does half a dozen chats parallel.
I asked her to visit a web site that I host so that I could trap her IP number. It was 220.127.116.11
I used two different tools (web sites) to identify the location she was coming from. Most web sites reported this IP as in London, UK. One web site located it as CAPE GIRARDEAU, MISSOURI.
If you ever want to do this kind of check, grab the IP number from email headers and use a web site like www.ip2location.com on it. You need to make your email program or web client display all headers, to see the 'Originating IP'. Yahoo's email client offers this. I do not know about AOL or hotmail.
She claims to be on AOL (which I found strange, does AOL offer service in West Africa?)
Yesterday she started talking how her step-dad does not send the money he is supposed to send. A kind of allowance instead of a paycheck. Don't ask me for an explanation of this concept.
I did not like to hear her talk about bills that she cannot pay. I'm kind of allergic to this talk when I know a person from 60 minutes of chatting only :-)
Anyway, today she asked me directly to Western Union her the money, $750. As I am posting this, I am still chatting with her. A copy of today's chat is below.
Joy Johnson: i was unable to get u the number cos the phone network was bad
Joy Johnson: i was thinking of geting my self a foone
(myself): is it worth it when you're leaving soon?
Joy Johnson: No...thats the problem
(myself): can you do me a favor? Click on this?
(myself): and then, what's the prob - you cannot leave?
Joy Johnson: i dont understand this whole thing
(myself): what thing?
Joy Johnson: what u talking about]
Joy Johnson: the webpage
Joy Johnson: or what?
(myself): i didn't meant that you actually read it
(myself): i just wanted to see if it loads properly now
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): are you home?
(myself): i mean.. in the hotel
Joy Johnson: hotel
Joy Johnson: yeah.i just wsanted to know if u will be sending me some cash
Joy Johnson: western union ....u know any western union around u
(myself): and which w.u. are you at?
(myself): do i need a city/ office number?
Joy Johnson: No u dont i will give u the whole infou need
Joy Johnson: you can send the money in the hotels managers name
(myself): well, what's the hotel's name then? and/or the manager's name
(myself): sorry for the huge font
Joy Johnson: Receivers Name:Mercy Gray
Address:12 hotel road.
Western union security question and answer:
Joy Johnson: Receivers Name:Mercy Gray
Address:12 hotel road.
Western union security question and answer:
Joy Johnson: thats the ifo
Joy Johnson: info
Joy Johnson: do u know western union agent location
(myself): here in my area?
(myself): not from the top of my head
Joy Johnson: yes.do u
(myself): i need to look
Joy Johnson: u can give me your address i will find one for u
(myself): don't worry
(myself): i can find it
Joy Johnson: how will u do that
(myself): so how do i know you are really joy johnson
and not just someone making up things?
Joy Johnson: Babe can u just trust me and u see me once i get
to the bay area cos i will foward u my flight info
(myself): how much $ do you need anyway?
Joy Johnson: :$750
(myself): what is the company's name that you work for?
Joy Johnson: i told u yesterday united gemstones.........u dont
need it to send it ok
Joy Johnson: babe trust me
(myself): oh right, i could not find anything on the web
about 'united gemstones' either, but they are in Lagos, maybe that helps
Joy Johnson: dont worry just to western union agent location
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: what cirt are u in the bay area
Joy Johnson: ok.hold
Joy Johnson: is this ur zip code 95010
Joy Johnson: ???
Joy Johnson: joyee201: is this ur zip code 95010
Joy Johnson: are u there???
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: 1475 41ST AVENUE
Joy Johnson: do u know this address
(myself): Sorry Joy, I just don't believe that you are in
Lagos, Nigeria. I think you're in London, England
Joy Johnson: peter u r so funny
(myself): and yes, that Western Union on 41st Avenue is only
a few minutes from me.. what's funny?
Joy Johnson: cos u said i am in england....maybe next year i should
go to london
Joy Johnson: u mean u have that location close to u
Joy Johnson: ????
(myself): yes, that western union.. maybe a quarter
mile from my house
(myself): i know it
Joy Johnson: babe i think it will be better u send the money
now because of the time difference
(myself): no way.. you need to give me some reason to believe
you.. I mean.. I WANT to believe you.. but there's evidence that you
are not in Nigeria, sorry
(myself): give me one reason that shows me you're really over
there and not in the UK or somewhere in the USA
Joy Johnson: the one reason is that am going to pick
the money up myself
(myself): i need to know a bit more about you
Joy Johnson: u did already......dont be silly peter....dont tell
me u dont know the first thing about me
(myself): not really that much.. you've got a daughter, work
for united gemstones, stepfather is your boss (right?), doesn't
send you money (allowance instead of paycheck - strange concept),
you recently came from Barcelona/ Spain to Lagos/ Nigeria
(myself): did i forget anything?
Joy Johnson: No.....what else peter....cant u just trust me for
.... i will never disappoint u
(myself): why do you stay in Lagos if you don't get paid anyway?
Joy Johnson: i dont stay here,am heree temporary cos my step dad wants
me there......its not want i want,i just have to
Joy Johnson: peter
Joy Johnson: If I ever saw an angel, it was in your eyes
(myself): hm, that's a nice one
(myself): did my eyes reflect and you saw yourself?
(myself): i've got an idea
(myself): is the 750 for the hotel?
Joy Johnson: eah
Joy Johnson: yeah
Joy Johnson: Jede Minute, die ich mit Ihnen aufwende, ist wie Sein im
Himmel und das Schauen in den Augen eines Engels
Joy Johnson: u know thats the truth
(myself): i could make a credit card payment to that hotel to
cover your bill
Joy Johnson: no....u cant...cos the whole of 750 is not for the hotel
Joy Johnson: ok....u just have to rush to western union....ok
Joy Johnson: do u have he info writen down
Joy Johnson: ??????
(myself): i cannot leave right now
(myself): i'm waiting for someone
(myself): it's 6:15pm
(myself): they're probably closed already anyway
Joy Johnson: no they close for 7pm....u can just rush ok....peter
do this for me now
Joy Johnson: ok.....i can get everything cleared tomorrow morning
Joy Johnson: it will only take 7mins or less for western union to
send the money
(myself): my friend is on the way right now
Joy Johnson: it dosent matter.since u r not going to take more than
10mins in western union...he can just wait for u
Joy Johnson: PLEASE
Joy Johnson: RITE AID #5966
1475 41ST AVENUE
CAPITOLA, CA 95010
Tuesday 8:00am - 9:00pm
Joy Johnson: u can just rush down and you wont take much time
Joy Johnson: PLEASE
(myself): I know the place, I go there twice a week..
(myself): why not a credit card payment?
Joy Johnson: it cant be sent
Joy Johnson: just go ok...for me peter
(myself): what is the $ for if not for the hotel?
Joy Johnson: for the hotel bill ,transportation cost.....
and medical checkup because of the weather here
Joy Johnson: ok.babe just try and go huh
(myself): nah, i don't feel as if i could quite trust
Joy Johnson: matbe u will trust me and more about me,as
soon as i get to the state
Joy Johnson: and peter if u say u dont trust me yet i understand
......but u just have to consider my situation and me myself i
promise never to let u down
Joy Johnson: Promise
Joy Johnson: are u there???
Joy Johnson: look what???
(myself): according to my info you're either in
Cape Missouri or London
(myself): and you give me absolutely no reason why
i should believe that you're in lagos
(myself): not even a hotel's name
(myself): or a phone #
Joy Johnson: ay hotels.....manager s # (+234)8053601940
Joy Johnson: +234 country phone code
Joy Johnson: what about this
Joy Johnson: ???
Joy Johnson: didu get it
(myself): the number is busy
(myself): which room are you in?
Joy Johnson: busy...maybe its the network
Joy Johnson: executive room 1
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: did u call d # again
(myself): that number is in Lagos?
Joy Johnson: yeah
(myself): area code is 805 ?
(myself): because i thought Lagos is area code 1
(myself): sweety, you need to improve
Joy Johnson: for landlines i think
Joy Johnson: 01 is for the land lines....the number i
gave u is a mobile # peter
Joy Johnson: thats why u need the +234 b4 dailing 8053601940
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: peter can u tell me whats on your mind
Joy Johnson: cos........its like u dont even want
to take me for my words
Joy Johnson: Why?
Joy Johnson: u not answering me
(myself): my friend was at the door
(myself): joy i need to go now
(myself): i cannot call that number again, my friend and i are going out
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): i'll try in a few hours when i'm back
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): see, i need to verify that what you tell me
is true.. ideally also that you are really that hot chick in
those photos, but that's probably impossible to prove
Joy Johnson: lol......why not
(myself): hm, can you mail another photo of yourself?
Joy Johnson: believe me or noy ,its joy in the pic
(myself): well, are YOU Joy then?
Joy Johnson: i will............will u send on ur way back
Joy Johnson: bye-bye
Ok this one was better than most. They romance scammers used a team in Yahoo Messenger in order to obtain personal information... And then you are directed to Westerna Union to lose your money.
I turned on timestamps in order to that you can compare conversations between windows. Comments in [ ] are my comments posted after the fact.
We will start with the chat with the female scammer, then I will post the chat with her 'travel agent' who collects the Western Union and tells you not to dissapoint the girl:
brina_caroline09 is currently not in your Messenger List. [Yup she is reported and ignored]
Report as Spam (Alt+Shift+R) [Been there... done that]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:16:36 PM): HELLO THERE
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:16:50 PM): LOL, hello Brina
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:17:01 PM): How are you today?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:17:03 PM): WHY LOL
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:17:06 PM): I AM FINE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:17:10 PM): AND YOU
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:17:48 PM): Because you are a character... And I laugh because you buzz and then caps...
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:18:07 PM): OH IC
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:19:35 PM): So besides chatting what are you up to?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:22:45 PM): Hello, was that a hit and run?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:23:44 PM): HOW
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:24:01 PM): Buzz me, cap me... And then go do something else
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:24:14 PM): ^^^ Hit and run [No, busy scamming others!!]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:24:42 PM): nope
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:24:48 PM): Ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:25:05 PM): So I asked what you were doing today besides chatting
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:25:24 PM): Plans for this evening?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:25:40 PM): well i just came back from Hospital
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:25:50 PM): Ooooh no good news
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:25:56 PM): What happened?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:25:58 PM): and decided to come online for a while to talk [scam] to you for few minutes before i go back
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 4:25:59 PM): and youi
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:26:09 PM): Well thank you [I was in the mood for a scam]
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 4:26:22 PM): I think you are cute and I am glad you popped in
I cut out most of the chat to get to the bait set and scam:
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:15:32 PM): Well i can come and jion you there if you want
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:16:01 PM): It's not my call... That is a decision you would have to think about an make
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:16:43 PM): But you are more than welcome to come visit, or stay anytime you want... You won't break too many hearts, too badly at this point
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:18:34 PM): you know i will like to know...if you can be responsible for my trip
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:18:57 PM): Financially?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:19:18 PM): yeah
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:20:11 PM): Well let's talk about that. If you got down here, I would certainly feel obligated to cover your expenses while you were here. That you can count on without question. [She will never show up, so I can be honest]
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:20:44 PM): As far as getting here... We can discuss that.
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:21:32 PM): well go aheas
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:21:41 PM): I will grant you, it's not easy to get here.
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:22:08 PM): It's not like you can fly in and I can run to the airport in 20 minutes to pick you up
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:22:14 PM): i have a travelling agent [Here is comes!!!]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:22:24 PM): that i will pay half of ticket money to get me there
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:22:41 PM): Where would you be coming from?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:23:00 PM): Lousiana
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:24:13 PM): The best, easiest, most comfortable way to get here would be by train most likely. Amtrak has a station in Alpine Texas. There is at least one line, possibly two lines that make that stop
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:24:31 PM): DONT WORRY ABOUT THAT
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:24:48 PM): I HAVE A AGENT WE CAN PAY FOR TAHT HERE
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:25:40 PM): Well, it is important to discuss the means of travel because if you just assume to fly, the nearest airport is 340 miles
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:26:11 PM): Alpine is only 100 miles away
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:26:12 PM): OK GOT THAT
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:26:20 PM): K
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:26:32 PM): SO IF I GET TO AIRPORT HOW WILL YOU GET ME
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:27:27 PM): I would have to drive a full day to get there... It would be much more comfortable for you to connect with a train that stops in Alpine... And much easier for me to pick you up
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:28:05 PM): WELL AS I SAID EARLIER
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:28:07 PM): You would need to ask your travel agent to connect you to Amtrak with a line that stops in Alpine
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:28:15 PM): MY AGENT CAN GET ALL THAT DONE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:28:23 PM): ALL WE NEED DO IS PAY HIM [Western Union?]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:28:25 PM): AND SURE
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:29:05 PM): Well, give him a call, and find out what it will cost... Would be my next advice.
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:29:34 PM): WELL HONEY ...
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:29:59 PM): But you should also think about whether or not you want to visit and for how long... Because not having met yet, we can't be sure things will work out as we would like
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:30:05 PM): I WILLL CONTACT HIM TOMMOROW OR POSSIBLY SEND HIM A MAIL TO COME ONLINE AND TALK TO YOU
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:30:17 PM): I would be agreeable to that
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:30:47 PM): WELL HONEY...IF ITS ABOUT THINKING ABOUT VISITING YOU
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:30:53 PM): I AM VERY SURE I WILL
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:31:10 PM): COS I AM ON A BREAK FROM WORK FOR 3 MONTHS [How convenient!!!]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:31:19 PM): SO I CAN BE THERE FOR 3 MONTHS
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:31:26 PM): BEFORE I COME BACK HERE
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:31:35 PM): That sounds like a plan
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:31:51 PM): AND IF OUR PLANNS COME OUT WELL I CAN RELOCAATE AND WORK THERE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:32:08 PM): YOU KNOW THOSE ARE SOME QUALITY OF A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:32:19 PM): Yes, I told you there is a need for home care nurses in this area
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:32:31 PM): WELL IF THATS IT
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:32:38 PM): THEN I CAN WRITE THE HOSPITAL HERE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:32:41 PM): FROM THERE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:32:53 PM): THAT I WILL LIKE TO RELOCATE FOR LOVE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:33:00 PM): AND I KNOW MY BOSS WILL UNDERSTAND
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:33:12 PM): SO THERE WILL BE NO MORE PROBLEM
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:33:32 PM): Ok, well let's investigate travel arrangements and see about the ticket costs and connections to arrive and we can go from there.
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:33:55 PM): OR WHAT ARE DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:34:09 PM): WELL HONEY I TOLD YOU ALREADY
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:34:21 PM): I would think that after 3 months we would both be sure what we want to do
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:34:28 PM): NO NEED OF THAT ..MY HOSPITAL HAVE A TRAVELLING AGENT HERE [That's convient, he's sitting right next to you?]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:34:47 PM): THAT WILL TALK TO YOU ...AND YOU CAN ARRANGE BETTER WITH HIM
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:34:51 PM): IS THAT OK?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:34:54 PM): Yes
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:35:01 PM): SURE
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:35:12 PM): SO AFTER TALKING TO MY TRAVELLING AGENT
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:35:36 PM): THEN WE WILL DECIDE WHAT TO DO AND HOW SOON WE WANT TO MAKE THINGS REAL
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:35:59 PM): Sounds good, I can't think of a better way
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:36:41 PM): WELL I GUESS THIS IS THE BEST WAY I THINK WE CAN MAKE THINGS REAL
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:37:11 PM): You have my email address... firstname.lastname@example.org
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:37:23 PM): YEAH
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:37:35 PM): Have you agent email me, I will reply same day with destination information
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:38:18 PM): WELL HONEY YOU CAN ADD HIM
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:38:21 PM): ON YAHOO CHAT [Home of the romance scam]
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:38:26 PM): sure
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:38:29 PM): COS I SENT HIM A MAIL ..NOW
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:38:37 PM): SO YOU WILL SEE HIM
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:38:46 PM): AS SOON AS HE IS ONLINE
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:38:55 PM): ok what is his Yahoo ID
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:39:02 PM): email@example.com
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:39:37 PM): OK, he's added
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:39:37 PM): Oh i got a mail reply he said he is on his way back from work
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:39:43 PM): What is his name?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:39:51 PM): and will be back home before 20minutes
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:40:31 PM): but that he can talk to you from work before 5minutes
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:40:54 PM): Ok, tell you tell me who I will be talking with?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:41:29 PM): I can't just say 'Hi traveling agent'
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:41:40 PM): Oh you wanna know more about him first
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:41:41 PM): right
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:42:04 PM): Just a name so I don't sound stupid and he knows I am the one you chatted with
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:42:06 PM): another bad network
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:42:36 PM): Just a first name
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:42:54 PM): Brian Wynters [LMAO]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:43:04 PM): thats his full name for you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:43:10 PM): Ok thanks
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:43:15 PM): i am sure he will come online and talk to you soon
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:43:21 PM): Ok fine
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:43:26 PM): ok honey
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:43:58 PM): I see him now [travel_agent05 comes up in another chat window and his name is 'Brain Wynter']
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:44:14 PM): Really
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:44:25 PM): Yup
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:45:07 PM): Wow
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:45:14 PM): did he talk to you yet
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:45:21 PM): he came so soon
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:45:24 PM): He's online yes
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:45:53 PM): well honey talk to him and feed me back when through
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:46:11 PM): Ok hon
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:50:07 PM): are you talking with him now honey
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:50:15 PM): Yes I am hon
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:50:43 PM): Ok..just wanna be sure you got him
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:51:02 PM): Yeah he has your information on file
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:51:53 PM): yeah...he is our hospital agent
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:51:53 PM): and we cant travel without him
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:52:01 PM): if we do we loose our job
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:52:11 PM): lol, I can understand that
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:52:39 PM): tats why i want you to talk to him your self and be sure
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:52:50 PM): Yes, good idea
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:53:22 PM): k
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:55:18 PM): He's is starting to check on arrangements
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:55:46 PM): He says he will need a few minutes to look things up
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:56:18 PM): Wow honey
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:56:36 PM): i am very greatful you are trying to make things work between us
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:57:10 PM): You know you are going to break some hearts, because I do try to make things work
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:57:35 PM): Yeah..
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:57:38 PM): And when I tell some others that you are coming... It's gonna hurt em some
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:58:04 PM): Well honey then we have to keep it to ourselves [Oh she wants it kept secret? Women want to tell the whole world, and want other women to know they got a guy snagged from out under them]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:58:11 PM): to make things work out
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 5:58:19 PM): Cant you do that
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:58:51 PM): So if we are going to do this, best to do it now, rather than wait until someone gets really hung on me because I don't like having to tell people I am no longer available
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:03:39 PM): so how is it going honey
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:04:05 PM): He wanted to put you in on a dirt strip... Which is not really acceptable
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:04:32 PM): I have never seen a plane land or leave from the strip at Alpine
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:05:35 PM): honey guess how much would a train cost to you
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:05:42 PM): cos i dont know
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:06:08 PM): We have not gotten that far yet
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:06:34 PM): Ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:12:33 PM): He is checking on travel times and connections... Looks like you can go straight thru
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:12:52 PM): yeah i am sure he can do that
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:14:20 PM): how many hows do you think it will take me to get to you by train
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:14:40 PM): I asked that and he is checking,
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:14:52 PM): i just want you to gues
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:15:02 PM): havent you travelled by train before
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:15:06 PM): i have never
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:15:16 PM): and it will be a new expirence for me
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:15:45 PM): I would think with stops, it would be at least a day... It would be fun and my relatives have told me after driving, flying and train... Train is the way to go
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:16:12 PM): you mean up to 24 hours
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:16:33 PM): When would you be free to travel? And I don't know how long yet but we will find out
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:16:50 PM): guess honey
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:16:56 PM): am anxious [I want that money!!!]
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:17:06 PM): i can travell any time he gets things ready
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:17:12 PM): remenber i am free for now
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:17:37 PM): relax, it's gonna be at least 18 hours I would guess with stops, Texas is huge [and you can't find me!!!], and you have to cross most of the state
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:18:35 PM): ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:18:39 PM): Brain Wynter: well its gonna take her 18and half hours to get to TX
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:18:43 PM): Good guess?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:18:45 PM): what a adventure it would be
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:18:53 PM): how
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:20:13 PM): how
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:20:30 PM): How? What do you mean hon?
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:20:42 PM): what do you mean a good guess
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:20:49 PM): tats what am asking
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:20:50 PM): I guessed 18 hours
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:20:57 PM): He said 18-1/2
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:21:10 PM): yea thats a good guess
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:21:14 PM): really one
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:21:17 PM):
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:22:56 PM): another guess test
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:05 PM): are you ready 2min
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:23:09 PM): kk
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:23:18 PM): Ready
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:25 PM): how much will it cost
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:26 PM): guess
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:33 PM): 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:23:36 PM): That I have _no_ idea
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:23:37 PM): lol
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:45 PM): guess
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:48 PM): i say
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:23:51 PM): He will figure it out in a minute... $300
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:23:53 PM): you passed the first
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:24:07 PM): k
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:25:19 PM): oops forgot his fee
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:25:57 PM): what
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:26:28 PM): Well travel agents sometimes charge a fee added on the ticket cost
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:26:56 PM): well our hospital here have refundabe too
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:27:18 PM): $500 is what he says total, with return ticket in case you need to go back
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:27:33 PM): ok
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:27:38 PM): thats not bad i guess
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:27:50 PM): is it?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:28:07 PM): No it's not bad
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:28:14 PM): k
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:28:17 PM): kk
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:30:11 PM): We are getting payment info now
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:30:23 PM): They won't take my debit card?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:30:26 PM): oh well
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:30:38 PM): He suggests western union
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:31:24 PM): oh and do you know about it
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:31:53 PM): Sure I have used Western Union traveling several times... But I don't know where the local office it
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:32:01 PM): So I am having him check it out
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:32:24 PM): oh thats nice of him
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:33:39 PM): lol, I figured he tacked on fee to cover his time finding out
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:37:16 PM): He is still researching, he should be almost done
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:40:35 PM): Now it looks like he and I are having network problems
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:41:55 PM): You still there?
brina_caroline09 has signed back in. (7/2/2008 6:48 PM)
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:49:04 PM): You get cut off again?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:49:30 PM): lol, your interent is as bad as mine on a stormy day
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:50:05 PM): yeah honey
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:50:06 PM): got it
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:50:19 PM):
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:53:10 PM): So how is it going
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:53:14 PM): when will you pay him
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:53:26 PM): He is delaying on getting me payment infomation
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:53:35 PM): I won't be here in the morning
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:54:01 PM): ok
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:54:01 PM): why?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:54:42 PM): I am going into town tomorrow shopping, and that would be the best time to pay for tickets
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 6:54:59 PM): Oh ic
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:59:48 PM): Finally
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:00:14 PM): whats finally
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:00:33 PM): He is giving me information on how to get tickets paid
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:00:37 PM): finally
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:00:41 PM): nice
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:01:30 PM): He acts like he is stalling
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:01:43 PM): stalling how?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:02:19 PM): well.. or confused about something... I just need the Western Union address in town and payment instructions and I can't get them yet
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:04:57 PM): he will get you that
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:05:01 PM): just give me time
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:05:03 PM): ok?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:05:09 PM): ok I am getting it now and writing it down
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:05:22 PM): really?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:05:27 PM): yep
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:07:20 PM): wow this is a great arrangment
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:09:05 PM): and i know i will be there soon
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:09:41 PM): I am having to find the western union in alpine, he can't seem to locate one but I am sure there is an agent there in town
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:09:55 PM): ok
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:10:38 PM): did you get any yet...?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:11:15 PM): yeah the grocery store service counter where I shop has an agent
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:11:58 PM): oh you got one
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:12:06 PM): Yes
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:12:30 PM): so you now know how to send it riht
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:12:40 PM): yeah I can figure that out too
brina_caroline09 (7/2/2008 7:13:43 PM): thats nice to know
Below is the chat from 'Brain Wynter' firstname.lastname@example.org
who does his part in the scam:
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:44:10 PM): Hi Brain
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:44:59 PM): hello there
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:45:03 PM): How are you there
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:45:13 PM): I am well thank you
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:45:36 PM): and i must say thats nice to know
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:45:50 PM): And yourself Brain?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:46:02 PM): i am very fine
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:46:02 PM): How are you this afternoon?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:46:06 PM): thanks
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:46:34 PM): well nice and very good here
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:46:37 PM): and there?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:46:51 PM): add me to see you online
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:47:05 PM): Perfect day, excellent weather... You should book more people down to S. Texas this time of year
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:47:06 PM): and by the way..what can i call you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:47:22 PM): My name is Richard
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:47:46 PM): ok nice to meet you Richard
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:47:54 PM): And I was referred to you by a young lady Brina whom I believe you know
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:47:59 PM): Well i was at work while i got a mail from one of our cliet
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:48:18 PM): yeah she is a nurse
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:48:36 PM): and i am the travelling agent of the hospital where she works
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:49:16 PM): She is interested in possibly coming down here on her summer break and we were looking at travel schedules and cost
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:49:35 PM): Oh thats ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:49:52 PM): well from the list of hospital worker i have here with me
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:50:17 PM): she is on break
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:50:27 PM): now....But for just 3months
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:50:42 PM): That is what she informed me. Yes
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:50:59 PM): Ok...then thats ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:51:19 PM): give me her destination
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:51:27 PM): So i can give you her bill
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:51:35 PM): She would need to arrive in Alpine Tx
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:52:15 PM): Thats not a problem
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:52:37 PM): What do you think the best mode of travel would be?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:53:11 PM): Well by air ..so she gets her fast ..in your car after arrival if you have one
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:53:27 PM): What airport?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:53:44 PM): give me your adress
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:53:59 PM): HC 65 Box 128
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:54:08 PM): i will like her to land in the nearest to you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:54:10 PM): Alpine TX 79830
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:54:22 PM): texas
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:54:24 PM): right
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:54:31 PM): Yes, Big Bend region
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:54:45 PM): Cool
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:55:15 PM): Let me go through my Brochure for u
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:55:19 PM): minutes....
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:55:25 PM): Take your time
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:55:33 PM): ty
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:59:26 PM): do you know Alpine Municipal Airport
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 5:59:42 PM): No [Yes I do, it's all but a dirt strip]
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 5:59:51 PM): adress..3401 N Highway 118, Alpine
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:00:00 PM): It would be a commuter stop at best
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:00:23 PM): well you know what richard
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:00:33 PM): to help us not to waste much time
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:00:37 PM): I honestly don't recall ever seeing a plane come in there
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:00:41 PM): or leaving
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:01:07 PM): give me any comfortable airport you want her and that will be done
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:01:23 PM): Well, how about train?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:01:48 PM): Well the hospital wont want here to go by train
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:02:50 PM): Why not? In this part of the country, it would be the most comfortable way to travel, and see the countryside. I know Amtrak stops there because I have picked up and dropped off relatives
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:03:15 PM): Well is she coing for adventure
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:03:40 PM): Of course, what else would a young woman be looking for on break?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:03:57 PM): Oh ic
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:04:08 PM): no problem
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:04:40 PM): give me the nearest train park to you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:05:02 PM): There is an Amtrak station downtown Alpine
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:05:15 PM): I can do that Soon
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:05:48 PM): yeah check Amtrak schedules and lines, there should be at least one line that stops there, possibly two
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:05:51 PM): Oh got that
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:06:27 PM): then all you need do is pay for her ticket
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:06:45 PM): So the next question would be, how and where does she pick up that train?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:07:18 PM): we have a train park here [Train park???]
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:07:28 PM): she get escorted there
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:07:30 PM): Good
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:07:32 PM): and make the trip
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:07:35 PM): thats all
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:07:46 PM): Fine that sounds pretty decent
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:07:57 PM): Cool
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:08:16 PM): So how would you pay for her ticket from there Richard
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:08:45 PM): Cos that comes first....to process her ticket
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:09:03 PM): and how long do you want her to stay
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:09:15 PM): Debit card, but we need to figure out a date, arrival time, and make sure about connections
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:09:38 PM): Does the line to Alpine go direct from Lousianna to Alpine?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:09:39 PM): you mean you wanna pay me vis debit card........?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:09:45 PM): Yes
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:10:03 PM): thats not her problem
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:10:13 PM): she is coming straight to alpine [she should go straight to jail]
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:10:26 PM): and thats what she will be up to
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:10:41 PM): nothing to much about that richard
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:10:47 PM): Ok so what city is she departing from?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:11:11 PM): Winnsboro [BINGO THERE IS NO TRAIN STATION IN WINNSBORO - WE HAVE A CRIMINAL FRAUD SCAM]
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:11:37 PM): And can you find out how long that trip is? I bet she has never traveled by train before.
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:13:22 PM): And then I guess since she is planning on summering here... Is a one way ticket best, or round trip with an option to cancel or reshedule?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:13:49 PM): well round trip is the best
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:13:57 PM): incase of any call up from work
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:14:14 PM): Will they round trip with the return date 90 days out?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:14:36 PM): got it
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:16:45 PM): Find out how long this trip will be
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:16:53 PM): We would both like to know
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:17:28 PM): i am working on that and bill together
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:17:43 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:18:23 PM): well its gonna take her 18and half hours to get to TX
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:19:11 PM): and richard the hospital board of transport
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:19:26 PM): dont allow payment by debit card anymore
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:19:38 PM): Oh I am sorry to hear that
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:19:45 PM): cos we have been dooped alot of time
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:19:50 PM): by bad people
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:20:09 PM): On a debit card? The post office accepts them and issues money orders
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:20:28 PM): so you have to send the bill down here
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:21:01 PM): there are alot of mean to send the money here
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:21:10 PM): Ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:21:27 PM): well do you know about western union [SCAM]
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:21:32 PM): or money gramm
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:21:38 PM): Sure I know about Western Union
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:21:56 PM): ok so you can send the money here through western union
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:22:04 PM): i am getting her papers ready now
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:22:15 PM): so she can make it tommorow
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:22:19 PM): Ok, can you check and fine a Western Union in Alpine for me?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:22:23 PM): find
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:22:32 PM): you mean adress
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:22:58 PM): Yes, I have used Western Union traveling, but don't know their local office is
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:23:15 PM): ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:25:05 PM): And what is the round trip cost
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:25:05 PM): complete adding me
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:26:07 PM): since its round trip
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:26:31 PM): its 500
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:26:50 PM): Even?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:27:26 PM): did you get that?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:27:54 PM): Yeah, just surprised it's a nice round number... Never happened to me getting tickets before [BUT I AM NOT PAYING FOR TICKETS]
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:28:10 PM): i am trying to help you get adress of where you can send money now
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:28:37 PM): give me your home adress
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:28:59 PM): It's up there isn't it?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:29:05 PM): HC 65 Alpine
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:29:14 PM): 79830
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:29:25 PM): k
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:30:52 PM): i am trying to help you get adress
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:31:06 PM): but guess you can send online too
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:31:25 PM): I would look it up, but since your a pro [Brain? No train station there? No phone? ], I figured I would let you make it as easy as possible
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:34:59 PM): And I have recieved money Western Union, but never had to send any before... So I would need instructions on how to send it
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:37:11 PM): how soon would yOU
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:37:29 PM): D
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:37:34 PM): e
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:37:59 PM): pay the bill
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:38:09 PM): You are having some problems getting information here... please resend your last line it is all broken up
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:39:35 PM): You still there? I am not getting anything but a single letter per line.
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:40:47 PM): Hello Brain you still there?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:42:04 PM): You still there?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:45:03 PM): Hello
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:45:10 PM): We must have been cut off
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:45:39 PM): i am still searchin
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:46:02 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:46:46 PM): and i will like to know are you sending tommorow or when
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:47:11 PM): I had in fact planned on going into town tomorrow shopping
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:47:16 PM): so i can know how to be fast about getting things done heer
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:47:30 PM): ok so you can make it together
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:47:32 PM): Right
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:47:46 PM): So i can start things straight away
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:47:52 PM): Yes
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:50:19 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:50:28 PM): you know what
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:50:34 PM): What?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:51:05 PM): i will give you information and hints you need to send money tommrow
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:51:52 PM): and i will give you hint [It's scam hint hint]
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:52:12 PM): Brain... It's a trip into town, I only go once every few weeks and I was supposed to go today. I won't be around tomorrow because I will be headed into town in the morning, first thing
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:52:54 PM): So you wont come online tommorow
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:53:10 PM): I won't be here, I will be in Alpine
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:53:22 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:53:27 PM): so when will you be back
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:53:45 PM): Tomorrow evening about 6
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:53:56 PM): cos i will need information to get the money after you send it
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:53:59 PM): whats your time now
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:54:07 PM): CDT
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:54:20 PM): time
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:54:57 PM): Central Daylight
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:55:00 PM): CDT
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:55:14 PM): whats exact time
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:55:22 PM): so i can come online for you
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:55:29 PM): when ...you will be back
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:55:30 PM): 6:55pm according to my computer
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:55:39 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:55:47 PM): so you will be back this time tommorow
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:56:17 PM): right now... But I don't understand the time thing... Brain it is a 100 mile trip into town. I may get back around 6, but it could be later
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:56:43 PM): well no prob
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:57:37 PM): So if I am going to make a payment for train tickets... I would need to have payment instructions before I leave in the morning
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:58:14 PM): yeah ...there are not much to tell you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:58:23 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:58:28 PM): you will go there with cash
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:58:33 PM): Ok?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:58:36 PM): and you will use extra money to send
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:58:39 PM): No problem
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:58:47 PM): i mean you will pay to send through
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:58:57 PM): sure Western Union fee
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:59:09 PM): yeah got it
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:59:20 PM): you will give them my name and adress
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:59:27 PM): to send money
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 6:59:30 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 6:59:42 PM): which i will give you after i get adress
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:00:56 PM): I am the one who needs an address... You have mine
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:01:12 PM): i will give you mine soon
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:01:27 PM): i am trying to help you get western union adress first
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:01:29 PM): Ok?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:01:39 PM): Gotcha
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:09 PM): NAME....WALLACE MCKINZY
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:27 PM): ADRESS...3245 WINNSBORO
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:02:29 PM): Who's that?
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:36 PM): CITY..WINNSBORO
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:41 PM): THATS A SECOND AGENT
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:52 PM): I DONT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GO OUT AND GET MONEY
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:56 PM): HE WILL GO THERE
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:02:58 PM): OK/
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:03:03 PM): Ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:03:14 PM): COUNTRY USA
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:03:21 PM): CITY WINNSBORO
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:03:27 PM): STATE..LOUSIANA
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:03:37 PM): THATS ALL YOU NEED
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:03:44 PM): WRITE IT DOWN OK?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:03:54 PM): Let me get paper and pen, brb
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:04:07 PM): OK
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:04:36 PM): tell me when through
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:04:55 PM): ok I got it
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:05:06 PM): ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:05:36 PM): kewl
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:05:42 PM): you will have to go with your identity card
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:05:55 PM): I think we are done
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:06:01 PM): cos its required to identify you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:06:14 PM): No problem
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:06:29 PM): well i want you to search for the adress your self there
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:06:50 PM): go to...www.westernunion.com
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:07:28 PM): lol, you should discount me
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:07:37 PM): But I am pulling up their site
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:07:53 PM): Lol your funny Richard
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:07:58 PM): Service is bad here
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:08:03 PM): thats why
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:08:12 PM): add me
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:08:32 PM): after getting that done ask me for another direction
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:10:44 PM): ok... They have an agent at the grocery store service counter I shop at
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:11:04 PM): so i guess every thing is sorted now
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:11:19 PM): so you go there with all infos i gave you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:11:22 PM): yep
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:11:38 PM): tender it with money they will make the transaction for you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:11:47 PM): Gotcha
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:12:43 PM): so you will be given a confirmaton ..sheet]
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:12:48 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:13:00 PM): i mean paper with all information i need to get the money here
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:13:09 PM): keep the paper and bring it home
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:13:16 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:13:19 PM): cos its a confirmation for the transaction
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:13:26 PM): Ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:13:28 PM): and all i need to get the money will be ob it
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:13:37 PM): ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:13:54 PM): Can I get a phone number there for your office
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:14:10 PM): Dont worry
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:14:14 PM): give me yours
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:14:21 PM): i will call you
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:14:33 PM): 432-371-2807
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:16:39 PM): did you get a ring there
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:16:56 PM): no, I can't accept calls here, only call out
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:17:04 PM): i tried you number
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:17:08 PM): but it rang
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:17:17 PM): it does not ring in
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:17:25 PM): it's forwarded
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:17:25 PM): really
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:17:33 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:17:52 PM): well after u are through tommorow come and talk to me online ok?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:17:59 PM): ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:18:35 PM): I should be in about 6, but as I said... I have gotten home as late as 9
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:19:25 PM): And I have chores I need to take care of before dark
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:19:32 PM): well will you be back yet by this tie
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:19:33 PM): So I have to go soon
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:19:51 PM): I hope to be yes
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:20:04 PM): you mean you are going...to town now
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:20:18 PM): tomorrow town - chores here before dark
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:20:26 PM): Ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:20:43 PM): It gets dark here at night
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:20:50 PM): Well i have to run arround and start making arrangment for her ticket
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:20:55 PM): Ok good
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:21:05 PM): I will see you tomorrow in chat
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:21:06 PM): and make sure you dont dissapoint
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:21:28 PM): ok after sending money Right
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:21:32 PM): yep
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:21:41 PM): Well thats oj
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:21:44 PM): Ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:21:51 PM): Ok then I am gonna run
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:21:57 PM): i know By then i will almost be done
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:22:01 PM): I will look for you tomorrow
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:22:15 PM): when you get off now where will you be off to
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:22:45 PM): I have load recyles into the truck, turn the solar panels for the morning sun, and pick up tools I left out earlier
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:23:02 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:23:33 PM): tell her all our arrangment so she can come to my office tommorow
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:23:49 PM): Ok she is stuck right now but I will buzz her in a minute
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:23:53 PM): so she can ...get a approval letter for the trip
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:23:59 PM): Ok?
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:24:00 PM): she has been having network problems
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:24:11 PM): ok
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:24:19 PM): same here
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:24:24 PM): buzher and tell her
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:24:29 PM): Will do
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:24:48 PM): Or I will see her later tonite, or tomorrow
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:24:58 PM): Ok
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:25:03 PM): But I will let her know, she's excited
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:25:37 PM): But I am going to run now
Richard Quick (7/2/2008 7:25:44 PM): I will see you later
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:26:58 PM): ok ..i will have to go home now
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:27:16 PM): i used extra time with you sortings things out
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:27:37 PM): So i will be online when i get hoe too
Brain Wynter (7/2/2008 7:27:47 PM): and will visit train station on my way home
This scam ran for well over an hour, and the money guy wasted 'extra time' They are gonna waste a lot more time looking for that Western Union before I am done with them. I am reporting the contact name: WALLACE MCKINZY ADRESS...3245 WINNSBORO
to the Winnsboro Police Dept.
I sent a nice email to the female scammer telling her how excited I am and given this information they should be expecting a Western Union ;)
Good luck guys, I hope the cops in Winnsboro bust the bag man at least.
my name is henro i love to take to u am a guy of 24 if u what to see me my conter phoen unmber is +2348062378069 male h.henro@yahoo .com am form nigeria am aq good guy dat u will love to be my good friend piesase try and come cois to me and u no wat i meen dat am the can of guy u will love to mite i no that will have not take befor but i what a good friend lake u so piesase be my good friend and u will lake it as i say belive me
I was contacted by a detective from the police department in Winnsboro, Louisanna USA a few minutes ago. He is very familar with Wallace Mckinzy and the detective wanted to talk to me about particulars.
After talking with the detective, he will be in contact with Wallace Mckinzy. The detective feels that Mr. Mckinzy can, and will be able to provide direct information leading back to the people using the Yahoo Messenger IDs: brina_caroline09 and travelling_agent05
He told me there are several Western Union offices there in Winnsboro where the pickup can take place, and because he is able to get into contact with Mr. Mckinzy directly, we have decided not to set up a pickup sting... They will simply go to his house :)
Me too... Almost got ripped off by some guy claiming to be living in Wisconsin, but currently working on assignment in Peru. He sweet talked me, threw the love word out WAY too soon, sending up red flags everywhere. Because he was a good looking guy and such a sweet talker, I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a couple days, but then he threw out the sick sister story and that she needed $450 to medical bills, and because he was out of the country, and she was in Utah, he needed me to send the money. Yea right!
His screen name is RVDX101@yahoo.com, Goes by the name of Marcus Bruchis.
Beware.. He is a smooth talker! Just to cover my behind, I have put a security freeze on my credit. I have also reported him (them) to the FTC.
He kept proclaiming his LOVE for me and begged that I trust him. I told him to prove to me that he is real by sending different pictures, web cam, phone call, etc. Finally, after I quit chatting with him, I did receive a phone call about 24 hours later and the number came from Nigeria!
email@example.com from United States
You were a pretty big idiot but don't feel bad we were all taken once, Learn from your mistake and dont send anyone else money. There are ways to help and when real help is offered a scammer will try for the money telling you that is the only way, Then you know the truth
Thanks Rich,Yeah I feel like a very big idiot right now,I was sucked in for quit a bit,But not again.That is what happens when you think with your heart instead of your head and listen to your gut feelings instead.I wanted to believe in her,Although now I am finding out it could have been a guy instead.What an IDIOT I am.......And here is another picture of the lady being used...And I will never again send money to anyone again..
Don't give up hope, just don't send money, I've learned there are many web sites to check on your 'girl' 90% are fake but out of the million's that leaves 10's of thousands of good honest women, I'll find one and you can too just be careful
Thanks Rich,I still haven't heard from her since I CONFRONTED Her about the change of flights and several other things dealing with this whole ordeal.NO,I'm not giving up hope,Just doing like you and others have told me, SEND NO MORE DURNED MONEY!!!! No matter what excuse they say it is needed for.
mad,mick from Australia
To Rich and Anon from USA, Find a local nice American girl fellows, in the end she we save you a lot of money and heartache. And you will both be able to speak the same language!!!!!
Cheers Mad Mick Australia,