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Last week I got contacted via my profile on a dating web site. The person had a temporary profile only with no picture posted and sent me a one-liner including her yahoo address and she asked me to add her on the yahoo messenger.

I was bored so I fulfilled her request.

Her profile had said she was from Illinois, USA. I live in California. Once we chat on Y! messenger, she says she just left Madrid/ Spain and is in West Africa now.

Supposedly she works for a diamond company which is owned by her step dad. She lives with her daughter since her husband (or kids father, I do not recall) left her after the kid was born. Here are her photos - I am not quite sure that they are really HER photos:


She also tells me that she is on bad terms with her step dad since he asked her for sex. (If that's her real photos, I might ask her for sex also.)
During the chat she was kind of evasive, did not answer my questions but instead asked me questions herself. After about 30 minutes she said she'd have to leave West Africa soon and wants to come to the Bay Area (which is why she had written me) and whether she could stay at my place for a week or two until she had gotten herself a place.

She wanted to see photos of my house (I mailed her two).

During the following week we briefly chatted maybe 3 times. No deep conversation, this woman does not spell well, and obviously does half a dozen chats parallel.

I asked her to visit a web site that I host so that I could trap her IP number. It was 196.3.62.4

I used two different tools (web sites) to identify the location she was coming from. Most web sites reported this IP as in London, UK. One web site located it as CAPE GIRARDEAU, MISSOURI.

Note:
If you ever want to do this kind of check, grab the IP number from email headers and use a web site like www.ip2location.com on it. You need to make your email program or web client display all headers, to see the 'Originating IP'. Yahoo's email client offers this. I do not know about AOL or hotmail.


She claims to be on AOL (which I found strange, does AOL offer service in West Africa?)

Yesterday she started talking how her step-dad does not send the money he is supposed to send. A kind of allowance instead of a paycheck. Don't ask me for an explanation of this concept.

I did not like to hear her talk about bills that she cannot pay. I'm kind of allergic to this talk when I know a person from 60 minutes of chatting only :-)

Anyway, today she asked me directly to Western Union her the money, $750. As I am posting this, I am still chatting with her. A copy of today's chat is below.

(myself): hello?
Joy Johnson: i was unable to get u the number cos the phone network was bad
Joy Johnson: i was thinking of geting my self a foone
(myself): is it worth it when you're leaving soon?
Joy Johnson: No...thats the problem
(myself): can you do me a favor? Click on this?
 http://www.ptiemann.com/
(myself): and then, what's the prob - you cannot leave?
Joy Johnson: i dont understand this whole thing
(myself): what thing?
Joy Johnson: what u talking about]
Joy Johnson: the webpage
(myself): oh
Joy Johnson: or what?
(myself): i didn't meant that you actually read it 
(myself): i just wanted to see if it loads properly now

(myself): sorry
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): are you home?
(myself): i mean.. in the hotel
Joy Johnson: hotel
Joy Johnson: yeah.i just wsanted to know if u will be sending me some cash
(myself): how?
Joy Johnson: western union ....u know any western union around u
(myself): and which w.u. are you at?
(myself): do i need a city/ office number?
Joy Johnson: No u dont i will give u the whole infou need
Joy Johnson: you can send the money in the hotels managers name
(myself): well, what's the hotel's name then? and/or the manager's name
(myself): sorry for the huge font
Joy Johnson: Receivers Name:Mercy Gray
Address:12 hotel road.
City/state:lagos
Country:Nigeria
Zipcode/city code:23401
Amount:$750
Western union security question and answer:
Qfavourite colour
Aink
Joy Johnson: Receivers Name:Mercy Gray
Address:12 hotel road.
City/state:lagos
Country:Nigeria
Zipcode/city code:23401
Amount:$750
Western union security question and answer:

Qfavourite colour
A: Pink
Joy Johnson: thats the ifo
(myself): ok
Joy Johnson: info
Joy Johnson: do u know western union agent location
(myself): here in my area?
(myself): not from the top of my head
Joy Johnson: yes.do u
(myself): i need to look
Joy Johnson: u can give me your address i will find one for u
(myself): don't worry
(myself): i can find it
Joy Johnson: how will u do that
(myself): google
(myself): so how do i know you are really joy johnson
and not just someone making up things?
Joy Johnson: Babe can u just trust me and u see me once i get

to the bay area cos i will foward u my flight info
(myself): how much $ do you need anyway?
Joy Johnson: :$750
(myself): what is the company's name that you work for?
Joy Johnson: i told u yesterday united gemstones.........u dont 
need it to send it ok
Joy Johnson: babe trust me
(myself): oh right, i could not find anything on the web 
about 'united gemstones' either, but they are in Lagos, maybe that helps
Joy Johnson: dont worry just to western union agent location
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: what cirt are u in the bay area
(myself): capitola
Joy Johnson: ok.hold
Joy Johnson: is this ur zip code 95010 
Joy Johnson: ???
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: joyee201: is this ur zip code 95010 
joyee201: ???
Joy Johnson: are u there???
(myself): yes
(myself): 95010
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: 1475 41ST AVENUE   
Joy Johnson: do u know this address
(myself): Sorry Joy, I just don't believe that you are in 
Lagos, Nigeria. I think you're in London, England
Joy Johnson: peter u r so funny
(myself): and yes, that Western Union on 41st Avenue is only 
a few minutes from me.. what's funny?
Joy Johnson: cos u said i am in england....maybe next year i should 
go to london
Joy Johnson: u mean u have that location close to u
Joy Johnson: ????
(myself): yes, that western union.. maybe a quarter 
mile from my house
(myself): i know it
Joy Johnson: babe i think it will be better u send the money
now because of the time difference
(myself): no way.. you need to give me some reason to believe 
you.. I mean.. I WANT to believe you.. but there's evidence that you
 are not in Nigeria, sorry
(myself): give me one reason that shows me you're  really over 
there and not in the UK or somewhere in the USA
Joy Johnson: the one reason is that am going to pick
 the money up myself
(myself): i need to know a bit more about you
Joy Johnson: u did already......dont be silly peter....dont tell
 me u dont know the first thing about me
Joy Johnson: 
(myself): not really that much.. you've got a daughter, work
 for united gemstones, stepfather is your boss (right?), doesn't 
send you money (allowance instead of paycheck - strange concept),
 you recently came from Barcelona/ Spain to Lagos/ Nigeria
(myself): did i forget anything?
Joy Johnson: No.....what else peter....cant u just trust me for
 .... i will never disappoint u
(myself): why do you stay in Lagos if you don't get paid anyway?
Joy Johnson: i dont stay here,am heree temporary cos my step dad wants
me there......its not want i want,i just have to
Joy Johnson: peter
Joy Johnson: If I ever saw an angel, it was in your eyes
(myself): hm, that's a nice one
(myself): did my eyes reflect and you saw yourself?
(myself): 
(myself): i've got an idea
(myself): is the 750 for the hotel?
Joy Johnson: eah
Joy Johnson: yeah
Joy Johnson: Jede Minute, die ich mit Ihnen aufwende, ist wie Sein im 
Himmel und das Schauen in den Augen eines Engels
Joy Johnson: u know thats the truth
(myself): i could make a credit card payment to that hotel to 
cover your bill
Joy Johnson: no....u cant...cos the whole of 750 is not for the hotel
Joy Johnson: ok....u just have to rush to western union....ok
Joy Johnson: do u have he info writen down
Joy Johnson: ??????
(myself): i cannot leave right now
(myself): i'm waiting for someone
(myself): it's 6:15pm
(myself): they're probably closed already anyway
Joy Johnson: no they close for 7pm....u can just rush ok....peter 
do this for me now
Joy Johnson: ok.....i can get everything cleared tomorrow morning
Joy Johnson: it will only take 7mins or less for western union to 
send the money
(myself): my friend is on the way right now
Joy Johnson: it dosent matter.since u r not going to take more than 
10mins in western union...he can just wait for u
Joy Johnson: PLEASE
Joy Johnson: RITE AID #5966
1475 41ST AVENUE   
CAPITOLA, CA 95010
Tuesday 8:00am - 9:00pm 
Joy Johnson: u can just rush down and you wont take much time
Joy Johnson: PLEASE
(myself): I know the place, I go there twice a week.. 
(myself): why not a credit card payment?
Joy Johnson: it cant be sent
Joy Johnson: just go ok...for me peter
(myself): what is the $ for if not for the hotel?
Joy Johnson: for the hotel bill ,transportation cost.....
and medical checkup because of the weather here
Joy Johnson: ok.babe just try and go huh
(myself): nah, i don't feel as if i could quite trust 
you yet
Joy Johnson: matbe u will trust me and more about me,as
 soon as i get to the state
Joy Johnson: and peter if u say u dont trust me yet i understand
......but u just have to consider my situation and me myself i
 promise never to let u down
Joy Johnson: Promise
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: are u there???
(myself): yes
(myself): phone
(myself): look
Joy Johnson: look what???
(myself): according to my info you're either in
 Cape Missouri or London
(myself): and you give me absolutely no reason why
 i should believe that you're in lagos

(myself): not even a hotel's name
(myself): or a phone #
Joy Johnson: ay hotels.....manager s # (+234)8053601940
Joy Johnson: +234 country phone  code
Joy Johnson: what about this
Joy Johnson: ???
BUZZ!!!
(myself): yeah?
Joy Johnson: didu get it
(myself): the number is busy
(myself): which room are you in?
Joy Johnson: busy...maybe its the network
Joy Johnson: executive room 1
Joy Johnson: ok
Joy Johnson: did u call d # again
(myself): that number is in Lagos?
Joy Johnson: yeah
(myself): area code is 805 ?
(myself): because i thought Lagos is area code 1
(myself): sweety, you need to improve
Joy Johnson: for landlines i think
Joy Johnson: 01 is for the land lines....the number i 
gave u is a mobile # peter
Joy Johnson: thats why u need the +234 b4 dailing 8053601940
Joy Johnson: ok
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: peter can u tell me whats on your mind
Joy Johnson: cos........its like u dont even want
 to take me for my words
BUZZ!!!
Joy Johnson: Why?
BUZZ!!!
(myself): sorry
Joy Johnson: u not answering me
(myself): my friend was at the door
(myself): joy i need to go now
(myself): i cannot call that number again, my friend and i are going out
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): i'll try in a few hours when i'm back
Joy Johnson: ok
(myself): see, i need to verify that what you tell me
 is true.. ideally also that you are really that hot chick in 
those photos, but that's probably impossible to prove
Joy Johnson: lol......why not
(myself): hm, can you mail another photo of yourself?
Joy Johnson: believe me or noy ,its joy in the pic
(myself): well, are YOU Joy then?
Joy Johnson: i will............will u send on ur way back
(myself): bye-bye
Joy Johnson: bye-bye

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2007-07-22, 17:45:01
anonymous from United States  
The one I posted up above - Ekaterina from Cheboksary - had a profile at Loveaccess.com, and I forgot to post it. I had sent her a baiting email to see what she would say...:

From: katya76767
Subject: Hello!!!
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:36 PM est

Hello!!!
You have very much liked me. You have interested me. I
wish to communicate with you.
I the girl from Russia. My name is Ekaterina.
My electronic address: katushkachery_87 (at) yahoo
(dot) com
Bye!!!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Member Profile: katya76767
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Orientation: Heterosexual
Country: Russia
Location: Cheboksary, Chuvashia
Height: 5 ft. 8 in.
Body type: Athletic
Hair color: Blonde hair
Eye color: Green
Education: High school
Occupation: Other
Income: Less Than $25k
Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Religion: Christian - Other
Astrological sign: Scorpio
Smoking: Non-smoker & don't mind smokers
Drinking: Don't Drink
Status: Never Married
Has children: No
Wants children: Yes
Last Visit: Today
Looking to meet a: Male Age: 45 to 75
Relationship desired: serious relationship with marriage potential

In my own words
I am looking for a strong, self-confident man who would like an exquisite woman to be by his side... I am interested in a man who is honest, well-mannered, reliable, caring, and has a good sense of humor. I am looking for an optimistic and joyful person. I would like him to be a caring and faithful friend, passionate and loving husband.

I am- the lonely, attractive woman. I like to care of close people, to give them all heat and love. I hope to find the man to which I can trust completely. I would present such person the sincere and warm love. My friends spoke, that I the kind and optimistical person. I gentle and careful. I would place the beloved of a house in an atmosphere of comfort and love. I very much like to listen to singing of birds in park, to observe of a quiet watercourse. I present that I am floating on this river and I observe of a landscape of coast, I look at clouds. I like to look at the star sky. To think, that in the world there is a person to whom I will be connected with destiny with whom I shall be happy also whom I shall make happy.
2007-07-22, 23:35:12
anonymous from United States  
mary_bless from new york studying in Nigeria
2007-07-23, 11:09:55
anonymous from Netherlands  
rating
Hi all there.

well seems like the scammers are the winners
aswell nothing can can stop them.

any way i think i got one too
i am met a girl named Cynthia Williams who is actually from new york but moved to florida she said.
and she has working for a couple a years now outside the us
she is in nigeria has worked in greec and some other countries.
any way she was stopped with it and should last friday come to me
and would arrived saturday morning here on the airport
so i went to the airport to pick her up
and what you think
everybody comes out of the plane but no Cynthia.
now i got saturday evening a email from a man who says he is the cashier from the hotel she was stayin gin lagos and his name is Abbay Johnson.
i didnt read that mail because it was on yahoo
and sunday evening i got another one the same but very urgent now on my private emailadress

and this is what he wrote:

Hello Mr Muizer,
GoodMorning.I'm Abbay Johnson the cashier from FTD hotel and suites In Nigeria where a lady Miss Cynthia Williams has been logde in for over some couples Of months now.To whom It may concern Sir..I'm witting these message to tell you what happened on our way to the International Airport last night...I was taking her on my car to the Airport when a big Truck bust up from a sharp corner and hit my car....and she was Injured seriously .....Immediately she collapses and I was also Injured On my right hand and on my forehead while the truck driver is dead now.I took her to the hospital and i contacted the Embassy that she sustained an Injury via Car accident at exactly 9:45pm Along Ikeja Expressway......to make a complain of the situation at hand If they can put hold On her flight ticket...I'm still waiting for the reply from the American Embassy In Nigeria.
Now she is still at the hospital...I believe you will wondering how i got your e-mail ?i checked at her dairies and i found Cor muizer...My Only Love and a e-mail address soundbird00@yahoo.com and cmuizer@chello.nl so I decided to make arrangement to send you an Urgent Message .Miss Cynthia Is a Going through Pains here in the Hospital...and all she was saying was ''Cor My love''...Till she got to the Hospital sir.I must say she is truly in love you sir ...i need you to get in touch and lets see what we can do now am also in real pains but i promise her i will stay by her till everything get better, i don't know what and how the stupid drunk truck driver was thinking at that moment..when he smashed my car......sir i guess i will like to drop my pen here and lets have a time we could chat and see how we are going to work things out here for her at the hospital.....
Thanks.The name of the hospital is Crystal Specialist Hospital and i can provide you with the details later after your response
Abbay Johnson.
cashier from FTD hotels and suites.

so i dont know what to do with this but seems like it is a scammer

like to know what you all here think from this story

thanks in advance

here is a picture from the girl i met





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2007-07-24, 10:41:06
anonymous from Nigeria  
nothing much to say but we all have to be careful and smart.thank you
2007-07-24, 10:51:26
anonymous from Nigeria  
hey,
seen so many of them but they should always remember that WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
Well this my own pics
Gat to do nooooooooowwwwwwwwwww
2007-07-24, 14:50:34
black_rose1361@yahoo.com from Canada  
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Thank you for your great site, to be hounest i was looking for a city name in the web and accidently noticed your website.I noticed your emails about a lady named Elena.
I was shocked reading her emails when i discovered that i have been recieving exactly same emails from her except her Photo,s are not the same in my emails.LOL
She emailed me with no Photo in a dating site and as you mentioned her location was from US and later on she appeared to be from a smal city named Solvensk in kiro area.
Now that i know she is a scammer,i will play the same game with her just to see what gone a happen.So far she has not asked me for any money.I will post her Photos and emails when i have been through with her scams.I don,t know how iam suppose to thank you since you have saved not only my life but also time and lots of money for a future wife who is nothing more than a criminal.
2007-07-24, 19:34:51
black_rose1361@yahoo.com from Canada  
Thank you for your great site, to be hounest i was looking for a city name in the web and accidently noticed your website.I noticed your emails about a lady named Elena.
I was shocked reading her emails when i discovered that i have been recieving exactly same emails from her except her Photo,s are not the same in my emails.LOL
She emailed me with no Photo in a dating site and as you mentioned her location was from US and later on she appeared to be from a smal city named Solvensk in kiro area.
Now that i know she is a scammer,i will play the same game with her just to see what gone a happen.So far she has not asked me for any money.I will post her Photos and emails when i have been through with her scams.I don,t know how iam suppose to thank you since you have saved not only my life but also time and lots of money for a future wife who is nothing more than a criminal.
2007-07-25, 04:08:59
anonymous from Australia  
hahaha..silly person..why a person feels they are incognito on the pulse proves they are moronic to boot..double hahahaha
2007-07-25, 16:03:54
anonymous from Canada  
hey Mr Australia:write in plain english and don,t judge people.Normally moron is a person who thinks is smarter than anyone else,so don,t be a smartass.haha
2007-07-25, 17:08:33
drod from United States  
CA,

Not to worry, I'm sure AU was not directing to you, but rather to the yahoo boys with pics above.

Some come and post time and again. Most times, just ignored.

good hunting.......drod

what goes around comes around
2007-07-25, 18:45:24
Johndnn@juno.com from United States  
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OK Guys, here is a new one i am getting, not an E-Mail at all, but counterfit checks in the mail, i won some money, or the last one was become a secret shopper, here is what you need to know, first take it to the bank it is drawn on, your band will just deposit it and give you the money the ask you to return, put a hold on the remaining amount, and ten days later you will find out it is a fake, so please do not fall for this, and everyone of these people i have recieved these from were in canada, no where else, but canada, so i say send some agents over there, and bust them, drag them back here and beat the hell out of them, before we send them to trial. just wanted you all to be awhere of this.Johndnn
2007-07-25, 20:32:27
drod from United States  
@juno,

Although it may have been sent from Canada, where did they get it from.\

Here again is a case of 'rob peter to pay paul.'

The scammers send fake checks (several) to one individual, to mail to someone else.

If you read some of the letters on various threads, you will see that the scammers wants to send the victim checks or money orders, then mail them to someone else. Happens all the time.

Most see the red flags immediately, but greed takes over in some.

Not all are scammers, nor are all victims.

We just have to try and sift through it all.

And as you are making your post, the Mounties are probably knocking on the sender of your checks, as their originals have bounced the bank.

good hunting...........drod

what goes around comes around
2007-07-25, 22:06:28
anonymous from Canada  
One thing i don,t understand is where in the hell these girls getting these fotos from?. i mean this lady iam recieving emails from,has sent at least 7 Photos so far and as i noticed before,she was sending the same emails to somebody else with different Photos.The Photos i have recieved all are from same person. I think they are working for a scamming company.LOL
2007-07-26, 16:20:12   (updated: 2007-07-26, 16:22:28)
anonymous from United States  
I posted an ad on Craigslist for a roommate, and got a reply from 'Mantel Tam@gmail.com'. She claimed her name was 'tammy' a model coming from Europe doing 'humitarian' work. she sent a check for $5500, and asked me to wire her back the difference. My bank cleared the check, and I wired the money to her 'travel agent' in Virgina 'Harmeet Singh' 3 days later the check bounced. insufficient funds. My bank said they did me a courtesy buy making the funds available, and since I verified the wiring, there is nothing to dispute. The police said they cannot help me because again, i chose to do this.
This is the worst situation ever. This person is a piece of shit, and makes me sick. MANTEL TAM = PIECE OF SHIT
die, you fucking pathetic piece of shit.
2007-07-26, 17:39:03
drod from United States  
CA,

Some are individuals, many work in groups, or what we might call 'sweat shops'

And mostly, whether Russia or Africa, the person sending you emails is a MAN, not a woman, and most assuredly NOT the woman in the photos sent to you.

Now, where do they get the photos............They are stolen from the web. Many celebrities have their own web sites. Actors, singers, porn stars (of course), models, etc.

The following are just a few links they use to obtain countless photos:

http://www.newfaces.com/
http://www.focusage..main.htm#
http://www.modeling..ndex.html
http://www.twilight..umbs.html
http://www.sologals.com/

For those REAL individuals not knowing better, that post many photos of themselves on dating sites, my space, etc., some are copy/pasted to albums and used later for scams.
We have seen several 'home' photos here and other sites, but not that many. Ordinary people are not 'beautiful' enough for the scammer.

The scammers want you thinking with the groin, not the grain.

Individual and scammer groups exchange photos, but not really necessary, as all the photos are readily available online. They use the same photo set and change names or vice versa. Maybe change letter sets or not.

There is one thing that is a constant, non changing entity. ALMOST always, DO NOT blame the person in the photo. It is very rare that the person in the photo is sending the email.

If by chance you do talk to someone on the phone, it is most likely a young boy, the girl friend or wife of the real scammer.

A couple more links that may pique your interest. In the first one, Nigeria, the only caucasian is the BBC reporter and there are NO WOMEN:

http://www.youtube...Ln86Q4wSM
http://www.youtube...Vyktq9Eo8

Hope this answers a few questions, perhaps only to think of more. Enjoy

good hunting.............drod

what goes around comes around

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